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Tonight
genarti and I went to go see SIX, the musical in which the six wives of Henry VIII compete to be lead singer in their pop-rock band by comparing miserable facts about their lives through the medium of catchy and potentially chart-topping singles!
The program: "No longer on the outskirts of history, these Queens are taking over the world!"
Me, reading this out to
genarti: Okay, sure, but can anyone really say that the six wives of Henry VIII are on the outskirts of history?
genarti: It's true, they are extremely in-skirted.
Was the show good? ... I mean, what is 'good'? What is 'art'? Is it a synth-heavy remix of "Greensleeves" punctuated by shouts of "Divorced! Beheaded! LIVE!" Is it a pop-feminist musical that takes 75 minutes to come to the conclusion that, perhaps, defining historical women by the men in their lives is Bad? Who am I to say? I'm just a humble theater lover who's here to watch six talented and sparkly women don giant ruffs and fake German accents in a transcendently weird ode to Hans Holbein and Renaissance-era makeup while a hail of confetti rains down on their heads.

(At first I assumed the costuming was inspired by historical portraiture and was disappointed that I couldn't correctly identify which wife was which from the poster except for Anne Boleyn with her signature B, but it turns out their costumes are instead all mostly homages to their pop musical inspiration with some vague Tudor elements so now I feel less bad.)
Do I have beef? Obviously I have beef, I have far too many Tudor opinions not to have beef. My biggest issue is the almost complete and total erasure of political ambition as a motivation for any of the wives, which comes out most significantly in Anne Boleyn's frustrating presentation as an airheaded Mean Girl but seems like kind of a significant oversight in a musical whose stated project is about returning voice and agency to historical women ...
In pettier news, it's not like anyone can prove "Jane Seymour truly loved and was loved by Henry VIII" is wrong, technically, it's just the most boring Jane Seymour take possible in this or any other year.
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genarti's theory is that the Boring Jane Seymour Take reflects the showriter's opinions on Adele and the genre of soulful white girls, on whom her musical stylings are based, as much as it does their opinions on Jane Seymour herself, and this may well be true but I'm still annoyed.)
All that said: were we not entertained? Yes, we were, extremely, and it's entirely possible I'm going to buy the cast recording at some point and happily listen to relisten to the siren sound of synth-pop Greensleeves in the comfort of my own home.
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The program: "No longer on the outskirts of history, these Queens are taking over the world!"
Me, reading this out to
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Was the show good? ... I mean, what is 'good'? What is 'art'? Is it a synth-heavy remix of "Greensleeves" punctuated by shouts of "Divorced! Beheaded! LIVE!" Is it a pop-feminist musical that takes 75 minutes to come to the conclusion that, perhaps, defining historical women by the men in their lives is Bad? Who am I to say? I'm just a humble theater lover who's here to watch six talented and sparkly women don giant ruffs and fake German accents in a transcendently weird ode to Hans Holbein and Renaissance-era makeup while a hail of confetti rains down on their heads.

(At first I assumed the costuming was inspired by historical portraiture and was disappointed that I couldn't correctly identify which wife was which from the poster except for Anne Boleyn with her signature B, but it turns out their costumes are instead all mostly homages to their pop musical inspiration with some vague Tudor elements so now I feel less bad.)
Do I have beef? Obviously I have beef, I have far too many Tudor opinions not to have beef. My biggest issue is the almost complete and total erasure of political ambition as a motivation for any of the wives, which comes out most significantly in Anne Boleyn's frustrating presentation as an airheaded Mean Girl but seems like kind of a significant oversight in a musical whose stated project is about returning voice and agency to historical women ...
In pettier news, it's not like anyone can prove "Jane Seymour truly loved and was loved by Henry VIII" is wrong, technically, it's just the most boring Jane Seymour take possible in this or any other year.
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All that said: were we not entertained? Yes, we were, extremely, and it's entirely possible I'm going to buy the cast recording at some point and happily listen to relisten to the siren sound of synth-pop Greensleeves in the comfort of my own home.
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Is the music better than the politics? (The costumes look amazing.)
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Ah. My first question was going to be "what is the historical thinking behind the only one who is in trousers and which one is she?" I feel it should be Catherine Parr though.
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b) of course you and
c) I think, based on this review, I will not make a special effort to see this show, but I may look up synth-pop Greensleeves sometime
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I kind of want to see it? But I don't know? But kind of????
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HJK;LBGK;LKJHKM,;.'LKOIJHUYGTFVBHJNHKML;,KJBHBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
*deep breath*
So, what do they do with my girl Catherine Howard?
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I feel like leaving out the wives' political ambitions is kind of big misstep for a show that aims to return voice and agency to historical women. What even was Anne Boleyn about if not political ambition?
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(The picture doesn't make it obvious, but Anne of Cleves gets shorts instead of a skirt.)
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(There's a bit where the wives have a wistful-meta discussion about how no one would go see a musical about the wives of Henry VI or VII and I'm like "I WOULD THOUGH. WRITE THAT MUSICAL.")
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I seem to remember there being more Greensleeves in the opening number than there is in this rendition but, you know, that's the vibe, there it is. Live in consort!
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(I was saying to
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THIS ALSO IS MY QUESTION. "Traditionally [Anne Boleyn]'s taken very seriously, so we wanted to flip that on its head and make her fun and carefree -- like Lily Allen or Avril Lavigne," says the program, infuriatingly; a.) guys I hate to break it to you but you're absolutely not the first to go mocking Mean Girl with Boleyn and b.) it's not a bold and novel take if it erases all her historically documented agency and intelligence in the process!
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But the total lack of politics is still mindboggling to me. How do you divorce (heh) Anne Boleyn and Katherine Parr from their political ambitions???
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Here is a review of it.
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But... like... if that's what they were going for, they REALLY needed to make it more unambiguously clear that that was the case, and generally subvert it more. Not to mention, yeah, the way political ambition and political maneuvering were sanded away from all of them in the interests of POP STAR GIRL POWER and catchy songs. (But the songs were super fun and catchy!)
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(Any less flattering facts about Thomas Seymour: not mentioned.)
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Please tell me more about what they did with my favourite, Anne of Cleves?
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Anne of Cleves was probably the most fun of all - she gets a joyous hip-hop riff about her party-going life as a carefree divorcee, and all the others are like "why did you even enter the 'our lives were hard' competition, this sounds AMAZING."
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Meanwhile, I'm kind of amazed there hasn't already been a pop-rock musical about Henry II's wife...
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My friend said the best part of the play was that it made the latter 3 lesser-known wives more interesting to her -- but it didn't change how she thought/felt about the first 3 wives.
It could have been such a stronger play if instead of the ~fake competition~ it was just the 6 wives in the afterlife lamenting that they're only known for the rhyme and deciding to tell their own stories from their own perspective. They could have still bickered, but it would have felt much less like "doing the thing you claim to be critiquing." It also could have felt less ahistorical that way -- it was weird to us that Anne Boleyn doesn't even name her daughter, nevermind anyone naming the Mary/Elizabeth feud that would become so important historically.