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skygiants ([personal profile] skygiants) wrote2013-10-29 10:23 am

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Last week I went to a dance performance with my mother. One of the pieces was an abstract work called As Sleep Befell, and featured a set of leaping shirtless men dancing to the sound of an atonal orchestra and a singer in white robes.

"Hey, that piece reminded me of a book series I read recently!" I said, to which my mother responded with an expression of vaguely weirded-out puzzlement.

I did not explain because the intermission was short and The Killing Moon and The Shadowed Sun are somewhat complicated in their premises . . . but it reminded me that I never wrote them up, so I'LL EXPLAIN HERE INSTEAD.

The books are set in the vaguely Egyptian-inspired nation of Gujaareh, in which the religious practice focuses on the dream-goddess Hananja. Priests of Hananja have dream-based magic and can do a couple of different things. The first book focuses on the Gatherers, who basically kill people by taking their dream-humors -- but nicely! As a public service! So people can die in a pleasant and calm fashion! Unless the people are assholes have been judged to deserve it anyway -- and how they get caught up in a conspiracy to attack a neighboring nation that has a related-but-different culture, which then rebounds to reveal conspiracies within their own priestly organization. Most of the Gatherers are attractive dudes -- this gets a lot of attention because the Littlest Gatherer is madly in love with his attractive, tormented, and often-shirtless mentor -- which, combined with the theme of sleep and the general aesthetic, is probably a large part of how I got here from that dance performance.

The second book focuses on the first female Healer of Hananja, ten years down the line, who then gets caught up in conspiracies related to the fallout of the original conspiracy. It also features a NIGHTMARE PLAGUE. I have a huge weakness for plague stories, I don't know why -- they scare me in a way I find fascinating, I guess -- and brain-plague is twice as scary, you know, that worked really well for me in a terrifying way.

The worldbuilding for the books is fantastic, especially the rich, dense culture-building and the ways that the different cultures (of which there are several) are set up against each other in ways that don't allow for easy judgments from a contemporary reader. The side you're rooting for changes depending on the circumstances, and everyone has valid cultural reasons for believing and doing the things that they do! I ALWAYS LOVE THAT. It is also worth nothing that this is a fantasy world entirely based on an African setting, so there is like one white person in the whole thing and she dies in chapter one. (Though, on another note, there are a lot of assumptions within the cultures presented -- somewhat unexamined within the text, or at least not as much as I want them to be -- about disability and living with disability, mental and physical, and people mostly choosing death instead, so that's something to watch out for.)

Of the two books in the duology, I was a lot more emotionally engaged in The Shadowed Sun, because it hit a lot more of my particular interests -- female protagonist! examining the cultural and political repercussions of major events earlier in the series! NIGHTMARE PLAGUE! -- and, probably because I was more engaged in it, I also had more . . . strongly complicated feeling about the way some stuff played out?


On a visceral id level, if I'm being shown the first woman to do something, I want to see her succeed at it. Which I think is probably not a good reaction to have -- like, on an intellectual level, I also think there's a very good argument to be made that the story of making the decision not to continue down that path and find a third space instead is a really important one to tell as well. It's not Hanani's responsibility to fight through her own mental and emotional exhaustion in order to be a Token First At Something; it's not anybody's.

So I'm getting over kneejerk reaction about that, but I do think it is fair to be a little bit cranky that almost EVERY TIME you get an attractive young woman in literature who chooses celibacy, she ends up deciding that hooking up with a dude is an important part of her life that is not to be missed, and ends up in a romantic pairing. It would be nice, just once, to be introduced to a female protagonist who has taken a vow of celibacy and feel reasonably assured that it's going to stick and be respected.

. . . that may not be quite fair either, Ehiru's vow does stick and is respected, but the way in which the shock and horror of Hanani's new friends that she's never had sex is then followed by Hanani having sex rubs me slightly wrong.

Also I am indifferent to Wanahome as a boyfriend, which may be affecting my perspective here a little, but.

I also have conflicted feelings about the Tiaanet storyline and the resolution of it and, again, the fact that the only way to resolve the madness of wild dreamers -- actually this holds true for Ehiru in the first book too -- is for them to die. I don't know! I mean, it makes for a powerful and emotional story, but it also makes me uncomfortable.
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[personal profile] genarti 2013-10-29 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep meaning to read these. I keep hearing generally good things, and they look, at the very least, really very interesting. (Unhelpful comment is unhelpful, but whatever!)
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2013-10-29 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I need to read these. I found The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms trilogy fascinating and I'm always curious about what's going on in Jemisin's head.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2013-10-29 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked the third, the second's still my favorite but the third did a good job of tying them all together. So it had more of the small stories of the second and how they meshed with the big stuff of the first.
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[personal profile] oyceter 2013-10-29 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I had pretty similar reactions! I love the setting (hopefully there will be Yuletide fic!), but I'm still not sure how I feel about the whole "death by Gatherer as better than living with [insert condition]." And how death is the only answer for Tiaanet's child.

Also unsure how I feel about the Hanani/Wanahome romance, though I liked him better toward the end, or how the unrequited gay romance in book one ends with one of them dead. It kind of bugs me, but I am not sure if I am angry, or just kind of bothered, or what.
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[personal profile] raven 2013-10-30 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
I liked the first book much better than the second for basically all the reasons you mention about Hanani. I wanted to see her succeed - and I don't really think we've had enough stories where the first woman does succeed to play with the story form just yet? idk, maybe I'm just being irrational about that, but urgh. What I liked about the first book, also, is that it was just so damn nice to have a queer brown fantasy-novel protagonist! I'd forgive it a lot for that. Actually, I like the short story, The Narcomancer, rather more than both the books - it does some really interesting things with the idea of what the Gatherers actually do.
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[personal profile] nevanna 2018-08-14 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is kind of an old post, but it convinced me to read The Killing Moon, which I adored. So, many thanks! <3