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Am I ever going to pass up an opportunity to babble extensively about AWESOME LADIES? The answer is: no, I most certainly am not!

Therefore, stolen from [livejournal.com profile] in_the_blue and a few other people by now: name a canon you know I know, and I'll tell you (in no particular order) my three favorite females and why. And then I'll name a canon for you, because I'm just as curious as I am eager to share.

Date: 2010-02-01 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] web-of.livejournal.com
Princess Tutu! Because nothing says badass like a tutu.

Date: 2010-02-01 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] web-of.livejournal.com
Aaaaa, Utena is kinda hard since there are so many awesome ladies to choose from!

Anthy: I love how Anthy changes, so very subtly, over the series, and how you get that little 'ohsnap' moment when you're rewatching and realize what she must've actually been thinking. I love how, despite being sympathetic in the end, she is still not completely a good person. And it's understandable that she isn't! And I love so much her giant fuck you to Akio at the very end.

Utena: You can't watch this series and not love Utena. She's completely awesome, in ways that I'm sure I don't have to explain. But what I love most about her are those little peeks at fucked-upedness we get as the series progresses, ultimately culminating in a complete deconstruction of her beliefs.

Nanami: Nanami is completely hilarious, for one thing. From her first appearance she is pretty much the best scheming Mean Girl ever. But out of all the characters in Utena, I think she's the one that grows the most, and, is, in a sense, the normalest out of the bunch. Compare her reactions to the news people are yanking swords out of duelists' chests with the rest of the student council's. Her main concern is how much it hurts. That's what I love about her, she knows she's in a weirdass show. And she's still obsessed with her brother.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
BACCANO

AS IF YOU COULDN'T GUESS

Date: 2010-02-01 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
EXCELLENT CHOICES ALL. One of the things I love most about Baccano is the ridiculously high number of awesome ladies! Awesome ladies who get to do awesome things and are not looked down upon or oversexualized! (Nice may like to show off her cleavage, but that is more because she is Confident With Her Body rather than using it as a tactic to get what she wants, and also nobody ever comments on it anyway.)

MY PRINCESS TUTU ANSWERS WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS THE ONES YOU ALREADY GAVE. D: Give me something else?

Date: 2010-02-01 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
It has been a while since I have read any of her stuff, but I shall work from my ingrained childhood memories!

MILLIE. I read The Lives of Christopher Chant before any of the others, and thus was introduced to her when she was a kid rather than when she was already grown-up and married, and I am pretty sure this is what formed my main opinion of her. Because she was a girl who wanted desperately to live a life like she read about in stories, and, well, back then that was me. And she actually got to do it! By forcing people to give her the chance! Seeing her later as a respectable witch with an (admittedly slightly off-kilter) family life was lovely, but it was the lonely girl who pushed herself into the world she wanted whom I loved so dearly.

--okay I do not remember this one's name, um. WIKIPEDIA WILL HELP ME ah, she is Claudia! From Year of the Griffin. I do not like that book as much as I did Dark Lord of Derkholm, mostly because of DWJ's decision to pair up everybody ever even with people they barely knew, but Claudia was one of the aspects I adored. For some reason the idea of a slightly greenish girl with muddy hair and a tendency to get sopping wet seemed absolutely beautiful to me. And she was cranky, but in a wonderful way, and again reminded me a bit of myself; as a kid, I didn't have very many friends, and knew all too well what it was like to be the weird one. So I was very fond of her, and, come to think of it, still am.

And, of course, there is SOPHIE. Seeing her in the movie did not impress me much, because, well, the movie in general did not impress me much, but seeing her in the book and in proper DWJ form was awesome. An eminently practical girl who takes bizarre situations in stride but will not take any crap from the equally-bizarre guy who is often the cause of them! And then she does not go all moony-eyed when she realizes she is in love with him, instead she goes and kills some plants and shouts at him for a bit. Basically, she is what I want out of a romantic heroine in every way. AND THEN SOME.

Date: 2010-02-01 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
I have not read Conrad's Fate or The Pinhoe Egg yet, and I do not really have any opportunities to do so D: D: D: But one day!

Date: 2010-02-01 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
...okay it is kind of sad that I forgot about the existence of libraries. I'LL GO TO THE SCHOOL ONE THIS WEEKEND.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:16 pm (UTC)
minkhollow: (anthill inside)
From: [personal profile] minkhollow
Discworld!

Date: 2010-02-01 05:28 pm (UTC)
agonistes: a house in the shadow of two silos shaped like gramophone bells (grace finds beauty in ugly things)
From: [personal profile] agonistes
Firefly!

Date: 2010-02-01 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksheep91.livejournal.com
I don't know if you know, but I'll ask anyway:

Hana Yori Dango. (The LA drama preferably.)

Date: 2010-02-01 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksheep91.livejournal.com
Already had a back up. ^^ (And that's a shame! Nearly all the female characters are made of awesome!)

Sheeeeerlock Holmes.

Date: 2010-02-01 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavesofwood.livejournal.com
DALEMARK♥

Date: 2010-02-01 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavesofwood.livejournal.com
Hildy-- Oh, man, see, I wasn't sure I was going to enjoy Hildy at first! I can't remember why, now, but needless to say I got to the part where she draws Wind's Road and tears it in two, and writes Ynen on one piece and Hildy on the other, and then crosses her name out and writes Ynen again, and I loved her wholeheartedly from that point onwards. I love her because she's so stubborn and determined and kind of an idiot sometimes because of that, and I was really sad by her behaviour in Crown of Dalemark. I pretty much fanwanked it away too-- "She's caught up in being at boarding school! She'll sort it out eventually!"

Maewen-- OH MAEWEN♥ Maewen is sort of my favourite! She's so sensible, and she tries so hard to put everyone at ease when they're all busy hating and mistrusting each other! And I love her for inciting the miners (were they miners?) to strike, and for almost saying "I'm in love with--" when Al asks her for a truth, and for her "nervous, freckly look".

Tanaqui-- I love Tanaqui because of her arc, for how she grows to trust in herself and her own power, and how she saves the day with weaving! And I like how not-perfect she is, when she snaps at Robin, and her badly woven rhyme-skirt, how she's always Duck's older sister, and how she terrifies the Heathen boy she saves from drowning.

To conclude: &DALEMARK; &LADIES;

Date: 2010-02-01 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavesofwood.livejournal.com
♥♥♥

I like your Hildy theory, and I think that makes perfect sense for her character! And it explains the way she is with Maewen, too. Only then it makes me sad on everyone's part again :(

I love Dalemark so much because-- like Witch Week, and a handful of other Chrestomanci books-- EVERYONE IS SECRETLY AN UTTER FREAKING BADASS. It is like one long chain of Crowning Moments Of Awesome!

Date: 2010-02-01 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elspeth-vimes.livejournal.com
The Sun Sword!

Date: 2010-02-02 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elspeth-vimes.livejournal.com
Excellent choices, all! Of course, it is kind of impossible to find non-awesome women in that series, and kind of impossible to choose just 3!

And you give me a very hard choice! I shall choose a few who I feel deserve more love (not that Nina, Yukiji, or Uran do not deserve love! but I think they get it fairly often).

From Monster, we have Lotte! Because more Lotte is needed. I love her smarts, her mad research skills, and the fact that she does really cool things simply because she likes people and wants to help them out, whether they realize they need the help or not! She can be sneaky, sly, and mischievous, but all in the name of good things like making sure a massive fortune goes to the rightful heir! And the way she falls for Karl is really sweet and I know they eventually end up together because anything else is unacceptable.

From 20th Century Boys, we have Koizumi Kyoko! ...And because my copy of volume 6 is lent out, I don't know if you've met her yet or not. But I love Kyoko! She is a ditzy teenager who does things like miss large amounts of class because she is an incurable groupie for an awful band. Because of this, everyone, including Kyoko, thinks that she is not all that bright. But she is pretty bright! Just kind of clueless about it. Which means that she's smart enough to notice things that others don't, and clueless enough to say that she notices said things and thus end up in huge amounts of trouble. And she keeps this wonderful sanity, which results in "ohmygod this is so messed up why do I have to deal with this oh FINE I'll take care of it in as straightforward a way as I can." Also, she is tied with Chouno in the MOST HILARIOUS FACES category, which is great fun.

From Pluto, we have Helena! Helena is, all things considered, pretty minor. She's the wife of the main character, Gesicht. But in a lot of ways, she's among the most human of the robot characters. A lot of the "imitation of humans" that robots do seems to come pretty naturally to her. She manages to come through a lot of things while keeping huge reserves of kindness and compassion, and has the ability to make large sacrifices simply because she knows it's both the right thing to do and a necessary thing. (Also: fiction needs more happily married couples, and she is part of one! I love happily married couples.)

Honorary mention goes to the series Yawara!, which I do not yet have firsthand knowledge of but which I understand is full of awesome ladies, many of whom know judo!

(Do I get to ask you for another? Because if I do, I choose Otherland.)
Edited Date: 2010-02-02 03:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-03 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elspeth-vimes.livejournal.com
LOTTE FOR GREAT JUSTICE. And I am fairly sure Kyoko will be turning up in volume 7!

I think Otherland is a great guide for how to Do Things Right. It's not perfect, but damn it pulls off so much so well.

And now I desperately want a t.v. show about Calliope (and her poor partner)! It would be so good. *_*

Now for Sunshine!

Rae Seddon: Obviously I absolutely love Sunshine. She's sane, kind of geeky, and just tries to do the right thing on principle. She's not an epic hero, she's too sane to want that. What she wants is to exercise her mad baking skills and to read her fantasy fiction, and that is awesome. She's among the most human of protagonists I've ever encountered. I relate to her enormously.

Sadie: Sunshine's mom is badass. She didn't just have the guts to completely cut ties with her family in order to ~follow her heart~, she had the guts to take her daughter and leave with no support from anyone when the guy turned out to be a controlling jerk. She's ended up with a good place in life because she's worked for it, and no one is going to threaten her or hers.

Aimil: Dude she's a librarian who moonlights with the S.O.F. how is that not completely awesome?

Honorary mention goes to Yolande!

And if we are still going...The Twelve Kingdoms!

(I am so happy to hear that! 8D)

Date: 2010-02-01 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agentclaudia.livejournal.com
Kate:: I just finished rereading The Taming of the Shrew, which can be read many different ways, many of which are horrible and antifeminist. But I decided to read it in the least horrible and antifeminist way I can think of, in which Kate is just too witty and smart and awesome for the patriarchy, and is the only person who knows that Bianca is a big fat fake, and has a low bullshit tolerance, and this is why she has turned into such an unhappy and constantly-spoiling-for-a-fight person by the beginning of the play. And then she and Petrucchio basically team up to fuck with everybody once he out-insanes her, and that whole horrible speech about obedience at the end is basically the same shit Kate was doing right at the opening of the play--which is becoming the center of attention by talking way more than Elizabethan women were supposed to talk, and scolding Bianca--only this time they have successfully conned everyone into thinking that it's totally awesome. And they make a lot of money!

Mistress Ford and Mistress Page from The Merry Wives of Windsor. Because basically they run the entire show by playing fabulous tricks on people.

Emilia from Othello. Because she is cynical and the only person in the play who is not totally overdramatic about everything.

I feel like I could answer this prompt better at the end of the semester when I will have reread a lot more Shakespeare. >.> Most of his plays I haven't seen in years.

Date: 2010-02-01 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneechan19.livejournal.com
Avatar the Last Airbender!

Date: 2010-02-02 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneechan19.livejournal.com
I will admit: I'm one of those who does not have a lot of Mai love. I only really started to sort of like her when she helped Zuko, Sokka, and Suki escape the prison island.

FMA! SO MANY CHOICES. I think I have to start with:

Lieutenant Riza Hawkeye: She is just AWESOME from the very beginning. She's loyal to Mustang, yet she will TOTALLY undermine him, especially if he's being stupid. It's only chapter seven where she's knocks his feet out from under him, saving him from Scar's hand, and he's, "What was THAT for?!" and she goes, "You're useless on rainy days." and the USELESS hits him like a ton of bricks. Plus so many other awesome things she's done. She potty trained her dog by scaring him with a gun! SO MUCH LOVE.

Izumi Curtis: How could anyone NOT think she's awesome? The first thing she does when she first meets young Ed and All is throw a bed at them! She beats up the baddies, then throws up blood, then continues beating them up! She and her husband are total badasses, then they hug and have hearts around them and are all "I love you, honey." The way she's all, "I'm a house wife!" SCARIEST YET MOST AWESOME THING EVER.

The third choice is tooooough. There are so many awesome women! But I think for my third gal I'm going to go with:

Sheska: Books. Books books books books books. Need I say more?

Date: 2010-02-02 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneechan19.livejournal.com
Wait until you get to the point that I'm at in the manga. You will love her SO MUCH.

Which post was this about all the women in FMA? If it's older I've probably read it, but I don't remember.

Date: 2010-02-02 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneechan19.livejournal.com
Oh, right! That post! I read it before but didn't comment.

... *goes and reads it again*

I don't have an appropriate icon uploaded yet

Date: 2010-02-01 07:41 pm (UTC)
genarti: River from Firefly making a face. ([ff] o rly)
From: [personal profile] genarti
THREE GUESSES

(It's that or Inda. :D)

I have an appropriate icon now!

Date: 2010-02-02 11:17 pm (UTC)
genarti: ([fma] I've got your back)
From: [personal profile] genarti
Well I was curious which three you would pick! THERE ARE SO MANY AWESOME ONES TO CHOOSE FROM. Although I do admit that none of these choices surprise me at all. But some of them could've gone otherwise. :p

Utena: ummm. See, I am handicapped because [livejournal.com profile] web_of did the same canon up there, and she picked awesome ones, and I am torn between agreeing with her entirely or picking different ones partly out of pure contrariness!

Anthy: She starts out such a cipher -- and she stays one, in some ways, but she's so complicated, and there's a young woman under all that weight of role and allegory. I love her for her spite and her stubbornness and her cruelty and the way she giggles at elephant flip books and adopts snails. I love that she starts out being the damsel, and turns out to be the witch who wouldn't be a princess, and turns out to just be Anthy.

Juri: She is so messed up. So messed up. And she knows that so is everyone else around her and so is the system, but she can't break out of it anyway. She's in love with a dead guy and a girl who toys with her for fun, she says she doesn't believe in miracles but she fights to find one, and she's the only person who ever loses a duel on her own terms.

Nanami: I very nearly did Utena, because I adore her, but Utena's the protagonist and I'm contrary. The thing about Nanami is that she's an irritating, emotionally incestuous laughingstock with no sense of proportion and no sense of reality, and her plotlines reflect that -- until suddenly she isn't, and they don't, and she's one of the most human characters on the screen and it's her eyes we're seeing through. It's Nanami's viewpoint we're agreeing with when she says no, that's fucked up, that's WRONG, NO, and suddenly you find yourself caring about her very real desperation. And that's a kind of table-turning I love.

(See how I'm being good and stopping the chain there?)

Date: 2010-02-01 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-blue.livejournal.com
The Chrestomanci series. Just to be difficult different.

Date: 2010-02-02 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-blue.livejournal.com
It's about frickin' time one of you sons of bitches asked me about this show!

*shoves Mugen aside*

There are some great female characters in this show. For me, Fuu isn't one of them and so I give you this trio instead:

Sara (episodes 20 & 21). In a world that keeps wanting to marginalize and prostitute its women, she stands out as a beacon of strength and as an embodiment of dedicated motherhood. She's strong, she's skilled, she's deadly, and she does it all for love... of her son. It doesn't hurt that she's a completely kick-ass fighter who never lets her blindness get in her way at all for any reason.

Yatsuha (Who? episode 15). I bet in all the time she worked undercover in that brothel, she never once let a single customer lay a hand on her. And considering her "competition," that's got to take some skill. She held her own fighting against Mugen, and that's not easy to do, and stayed focused on her job the whole time, did what she needed to do, and got the hell out of there relatively unscathed. She fared a lot better than her (male) partner, too, and I like her whimsical last line about how Mugen's the man she's going to marry some day. I wouldn't put it past her.

Shino (episode 11). There was so much chemistry between her and Jin, but that's not why I like her. She stands as one of my favorite Champloo characters because she's got such quiet strength even though she's faced with this ridiculous adversity. From her introductory last night of freedom to the weight being lifted from her eyes and shoulders as she makes her getaway via boat to Enkiri Dera. Only someone with an abundance of inner strength could endure what she did and still hold any hope in her heart.

Runner-up: Hotaru (episode 2), just because she's awesome in an evil way.

(Also, will now probably have to read Witch Week.)

Date: 2010-02-03 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-blue.livejournal.com
Hotaru is the Wendee Lee-voiced gorgeous woman who seduces then poisons Mugen with a deadly mushroom through a kiss in the second episode. I always get so excited to hear Faye no matter how she's... uh... embodied.

Date: 2010-02-01 09:27 pm (UTC)
aberration: NASA Webb image of the Carina nebula (brave little toaster)
From: [personal profile] aberration
BSG!

Date: 2010-02-02 03:36 am (UTC)
aberration: NASA Webb image of the Carina nebula (haven't learned any godsdamned lessons)
From: [personal profile] aberration
I'm going to have to keep up your pattern of having three Cylons :P

Sharon Agathon - I really have a weakness for characters that kind of hold between the "good" and "bad" sides in a story. There's a lot of characters this applies to in BSG, but Sharon's probably my favorite. I was a sucker for shipping her with Helo, and she's the only Cylon who really goes entirely into rejecting her Cylon identity, which - not healthy, but interesting. Plus she's a smartass.

Caprica-Six - I kind of like her for similar reasons to Sharon, except that she consistently stayed on the other side of the line and was never even really tempted away from her Cylon identity. But she's also a very in-between character, which is only accentuated by her direct role in the attacks on the Colonies and then key role in the overall plot arc.

Ellen Tigh - Because she gets drunk and cheats and everyone hates her. I love that she's this weird combination of hilariously Machiavellian and yet also hopelessly romantic - she fucks with Tigh all the time, but then commits all sorts of desperate acts to save him. And seriously, I love her because she pisses everyone off and they kept her around, anyway. It doesn't make me forgive them for who they didn't keep around when they should have, but it does amuse the hell out of me.
Edited Date: 2010-02-02 03:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-01 10:07 pm (UTC)
gramarye1971: stack of old leatherbound books with the text 'Bibliophile' (Books)
From: [personal profile] gramarye1971
Phantom of the Opera, in whatever incarnation you choose. ^_^

Date: 2010-02-02 08:26 pm (UTC)
gramarye1971: a lone figure in silhouette against a blaze of white light (Ritsuko)
From: [personal profile] gramarye1971
Mizuno Ami/Sailor Mercury: The shy, sweet, smart girl who likes swimming and chess, enjoys sandwiches because she can hold a book in one hand and a sandwich in the other, and relies more on fast thinking than attacks to defeat an enemy? Yeah, she's been my favourite since she first showed up in the series. And in the live-action PGSM series, I wasn't entirely convinced that I'd like some of the dark places they took her character, but it gave her a great depth of personality that provided a nice facet to her character.

Meiou Setsuna/Sailor Pluto: Ageless, essentially immortal, stuck with an important but depressingly solitary duty that involves guarding the Door of Time, prone to cryptic statements about past and future, ridiculously powerful but unable to really use her most powerful attack, and possessed of a small secret inner woe? I am, as they say, predictable. ^_^ I also think she has the best regular attack, and doesn't get nearly enough screen time to show off her awesomeness.

Kino Makoto/Sailor Jupiter: I think I started liking her for the simple reason that she's tall and tends to be unintentionally intimidating because of it. I remember reading that Naoki Takeuchi originally wanted to write her character as being more of a juvenile deliquent and a brawler -- the sukeban or yankii type -- and only the physical aspects (such as curly hair and a longer skirt) ended up in the final version. She's tough but kind, very self-reliant (enough to live on her own after her parents die), and her featured episodes always reveal some interesting aspect of her character.

Interestingly enough, the first slash fanfic I ever read was Makoto/Ami -- the pairing had quite a following on alt.fan.sailor-moon. ^_^

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