skygiants: Moril from the Dalemark Quartet playing the cwidder (composing hallelujah)
[personal profile] skygiants
While we're talking about Diana Wynne Jones, I guess it's time to write up Reflections: On the Magic of Writing.

So here's a story: in January, I was hanging out in a Denver bookstore, and [personal profile] adiva_calandia found Reflections on the shelves. "Becca!" she said. "BECCA! You NEED this!" and handed it to me.

I didn't buy it then. The reason I said was because it was an expensive hardcover, and I knew I could get it out of the library; this was true. The other reason I didn't say at that time was that I was scared. Diana Wynne Jones and her books have meant so, so many things to me, and what if I read her essays and found out something I didn't want to know?

Well, one cannot live in fear. So I did get the book out of the library, and I read it, and for the most part I'm very happy I did. I did find out a few things I didn't want to know, most notably that Witch Week was meant as a kind of allegory about the problem of racism in schools. I love Witch Week passionately and it is a much, much better book if you DON'T KNOW THAT, and I am trying very hard to forget it as fast as I can.

Then there were some things I was glad and entertained to know, like DWJ's Thoughts On LOTR, and various hijinks-y stories about books coming true, and the millions of sources that went into Fire and Hemlock. (Did anyone else pick up about Thomas Lynne also being Cupid before reading that essay? "Blind and uses a bow," what a gloriously terrible pun. I mean, she means it as in 'and Psyche,' but the mental image is nonetheless hilarious.)

And then there were things that it hurt a bit to read but I'm glad I did -- like, I've known for years that Diana Wynne Jones often had a hard time writing female protagonists because they re too close, and all you have to do is read Aunt Maria to see her struggles with her own internalized sexism and issues with being a female person. But it doesn't make it less of a home hit to hear her talking about reading Britomart in The Faerie Queene and thinking for the first time that it was all right to be a girl, she could still be a hero, that was possible.

And I forget if it was DWJ herself or one of her sons who pointed out that she writes an awful lot of writer protagonists, and most of them end up somehow sacrificing something significant for it. That hit me home, too.

Date: 2013-03-16 12:29 am (UTC)
hafl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hafl
I'm just finishing the Scarlet Pimpernel books (and realising that they're similar to Fantomas books in a way (a mastermind criminal, who is also a master of disguise, and a man of law struggling to catch him, even though he is always thwarted)) and I was thinking about reading more DWJ, so which one would you recommend me to start with?

I've read Witch Week, Magicians of Caprona, Lives of Christopher Chant and Howl's Moving Castle a while back and enjoyed them all, but I've forgotten them almost completely. I'll reread them at some point, but I was thinking about trying some other of her books.

Date: 2013-03-16 12:33 am (UTC)
ceitfianna: (fairy illustration)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I've been eying this book on my iBooks though it will have to wait until I get through a few more. It sounds like it all worked and I'm now getting back into Power of Three. I do like it but it hasn't caught me quite as much as some of her other books.

Date: 2013-03-16 01:06 am (UTC)
hebethen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hebethen
I liked Witch Week quite a lot, so it's fortunate that I have no idea what that means. Don't explain to me! (Although that's something to keep in mind if someone else has qualms @_@) Uh, but do explain "and Psyche"? As in Polly's determination to find out what's going on?

Date: 2013-03-16 01:58 am (UTC)
troisroyaumes: Painting of a duck, with the hanzi for "summer" in the top left (Default)
From: [personal profile] troisroyaumes
The Thomas Lynne being Cupid connection didn't occur to me before either, but wow, that...makes a lot of sense!

I want to read this now, despite the somewhat saddening bits you mention.

Date: 2013-03-16 02:14 am (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Hatter is bemused)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Oh, that adds an interesting dimension to that book which hasn't won me over yet, but I might reread.

Date: 2013-03-16 02:37 am (UTC)
sylleptic: Ada Lovelace from the 2dgoggles webcomic, writing with a quill (comics; 2dgoggles; Ada working)
From: [personal profile] sylleptic
Is it a DWJ short story that has a writer protagonist breaking her writer's block by transcribing her exhausted coffee-inhaling state as the experience of a junior officer on a spaceship? And then she ends up being wildly successful writing a bunch of SF novels with protagonists who are always drinking some thinly-disguised form of coffee. But then the novels come to life somehow, I think?

Date: 2013-03-16 02:52 am (UTC)
jinian: (no comment)
From: [personal profile] jinian
protagonists who are always drinking some thinly-disguised form of coffee

So, every SF novel ever, then?

Date: 2013-03-16 03:06 am (UTC)
sophia_sol: photo of a 19th century ivory carving of a fat bird (Default)
From: [personal profile] sophia_sol
Oh my god I REMEMBER THIS STORY. I have no idea if it's DWJ or not but I have been wanting to reread it for years to remind myself what actually HAPPENS in it besides the xofiy/khyfee/coffee/etc!

Date: 2013-03-16 03:10 am (UTC)
hebethen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hebethen
YESSS. And then suddenly matriarchy revolution shipjacking conspiracies with artificial intelligence in. I recall being somewhat puzzled by this.

Date: 2013-03-16 03:19 am (UTC)
sylleptic: Ada Lovelace from the 2dgoggles webcomic, writing with a quill (comics; 2dgoggles; Ada working)
From: [personal profile] sylleptic
Yes indeed!

Date: 2013-03-16 03:23 am (UTC)
sylleptic: Ada Lovelace from the 2dgoggles webcomic, writing with a quill (comics; 2dgoggles; Ada working)
From: [personal profile] sylleptic
It's such a vivid book memory! Unfortunately not in ways that are useful for finding it. But I looked around and I'm pretty sure it's "Nad and Dan adn Quaffy", a DWJ short in Believing is Seeing and Unexpected Magic. Tonight has been a night of tracking down things I read as a kid and wish I could find again -- thank goodness for Google!

Date: 2013-03-16 03:26 am (UTC)
sylleptic: Ada Lovelace from the 2dgoggles webcomic, writing with a quill (comics; 2dgoggles; Ada working)
From: [personal profile] sylleptic
Oh, wow, yes. I had forgotten what a sharp left turn it takes. I mean, I mostly remembered "something something coffee! something something typos! something something" so I guess that's not surprising. I definitely want to reread now.

Date: 2013-03-16 04:14 am (UTC)
rymenhild: Manuscript page from British Library MS Harley 913 (Default)
From: [personal profile] rymenhild
I always, and I mean since high school, read Witch Week as an allegory for hidden otherness -- queerness, I guess, including but not limited to the sexual orientation variety.

Date: 2013-03-16 09:25 am (UTC)
esmenet: Aki Natsuko from Re: Cutie Honey, looking stern (*glasses check*)
From: [personal profile] esmenet
Chipping in here to say that yes, that's most definitely it! I remember the whole 'adn' thing quite clearly.

Date: 2013-03-16 10:01 am (UTC)
hafl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hafl
Thanks. I think I'll start with Homeward Bounders and then move on to ALL OF THEM (Thesis? What thesis?)

Date: 2013-03-16 04:37 pm (UTC)
hebethen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hebethen
See, that I could understand! I would also march on the capital demanding my compensatory superpower(s), because secret-powers-as-queerness is overdone and a bad analogy, but it's one I understand.

Date: 2013-03-16 05:29 pm (UTC)
jinian: (algae)
From: [personal profile] jinian
Oh okay, good point, I am no longer able to not be annoyed. :(

Date: 2013-03-16 09:58 pm (UTC)
sophia_sol: photo of a 19th century ivory carving of a fat bird (Default)
From: [personal profile] sophia_sol
wow yes you're right, that's definitely it -- so EVIDENTLY at some point in my past I read a collection of DWJ short stories, and I DO NOT REMEMBER HAVING DONE SO. This is a little disconcerting.

Okay, so, tracking it down again and rereading it is definitely on my to-do list.

Date: 2013-03-16 10:00 pm (UTC)
sophia_sol: photo of a 19th century ivory carving of a fat bird (Default)
From: [personal profile] sophia_sol
OH NO now I'm angry tooooooo :(

I'd always found the ending of the book unsatisfying -- it's why, of the DWJ books I own, it's the one I've reread the least despite loving everything else about the book -- but now I'm just endless :((((((

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