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So I read Midnight Riot, the first book in Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London series, and I said to myself, "well, sure, that was reasonably enjoyable. Do I want to read the next one? . . . yeah, I guess I do."

And then I read the next one, Moon Over Soho, and I said to myself, "do I want to read the one after that? . . . apparently I want to read the one after that immediately. How about that?"

And then I read the one after that, Whispers Underground, and I said to myself, "do I want to read the one after that? . . . what do you mean, it's not out until the end of July? But I want it now!"

It's not actually that the books get progressively better as books in and of themselves, for the record -- the plot of the second one is one of those mysteries where everyone knows what's going on half a book before the protagonist does, and I cannot actually even remember the main plot of the third one and I read it two weeks ago. But somehow I became really fond of the characters when I wasn't looking!

The protagonist, for the record, is PC Peter Grant, a young police officer with a failed jazz musician father and an extended West African immigrant family, who sort of accidentally ends up apprenticed to the one magician affiliated with the London police department. The magic squad is sort of undercover, but not exactly secret. Over the course of the series, as magical crimes start to increase number, most of the other police officers that they work with become aware to a greater or lesser extent that Peter and his boss are involved in some sort of freaky supernatural weirdness. They all still have to do paperwork and follow procedure, and no one has to angst about being forever alone, and people with no interest or investment in magic are just as useful and competent as magic-users, and normal people never have to get their memories erased because they just can't cope! THIS IS VERY EXCITING TO ME. And Peter's pool of connections and contacts is continually expanding, and I really like that too.

The other thing I like best about the series is HOW MUCH I LOVE LESLIE. So, okay, if you don't know the books and clicked under this cut because you don't care about spoilers: Leslie is another police officer who Peter went through training with. She is much better at actual police work than Peter is, and Peter has a huge crush on her. At the end of the first book, she gets on the wrong side of a magical crime, and basically her face falls off.

In most series, this would be the end of Leslie, or at the very least the breaking of Leslie, while Peter carries on nobly filled with Leslie-related manpain -- but Leslie isn't broken, and she gets a really amazingly done recovery arc that carries through the books. The seriousness of what she's going through is never downplayed; she's permanently and very severely disfigured, and her life is never going to be the same. All the same, she picks herself back up, and remains an extremely talented police officer, and starts learning magic alongside Peter, and I had not realized how much I wanted a really well-done recovery arc for a female character like this until I got it.

Date: 2013-07-01 09:46 pm (UTC)
lizbee: (Random: Statler and Waldorf)
From: [personal profile] lizbee
I LOVE LESLIE SO MUCH. And I love that, if her face is eventually magically restored, she has absolutely earned that.

Apparently the books have been optioned for a BBC series? And I have no fear that Peter will be whitewashed, but I'm really concerned they'll fudge the business with Leslie's face, if only because it's awkward when your lead actress is entirely masked.

Date: 2013-07-01 09:54 pm (UTC)
lizbee: (Games: Chell (game))
From: [personal profile] lizbee
And also, the prosthetics might have to be toned down for censorship reasons. I'm not sure the world is ready for a main character with exposed muscles.

Date: 2013-07-01 09:55 pm (UTC)
mme_hardy: White rose (Default)
From: [personal profile] mme_hardy
Yes! Seriously, Leslie could not be more perfectly handled.

Date: 2013-07-01 09:49 pm (UTC)
raven: [hello my name is] and a silhouette image of a raven (Default)
From: [personal profile] raven
They're great fun, aren't they? I love, love, love being in the head of a non-white person for whole books at a time, it makes me so happy.

Date: 2013-07-01 09:56 pm (UTC)
mme_hardy: White rose (Default)
From: [personal profile] mme_hardy
I love how rooted in his culture he is, and the way he talks about food, and about grandmothers, and just seeing a different slant on life from mine.

Date: 2013-07-01 09:53 pm (UTC)
happydork: A graph-theoretic tree in the shape of a dog, with the caption "Tree (with bark)" (Default)
From: [personal profile] happydork
Oooh, I clicked on the cut having only read the first book and have now moved from "I guess I might read the others eventually" to "RECOVERY ARC FOR LESLIE OKAY YES GIVE IT TO ME I WANT IT YES."

Date: 2013-07-02 07:06 pm (UTC)
raven: [hello my name is] and a silhouette image of a raven (Default)
From: [personal profile] raven
A and I have them all, if you wish to borrow. <3

Date: 2013-07-01 10:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flemmings
I can't for the life of me remember the exact plots of these books. I reread them all when the next book comes out, meaning that by the time I get my copy of Broken Homes, I'll have read Rivers four times. And happy to do it! there being many important details whisked past you by Peter's beguiling narrative voice.

(I didn't figure out what was happening in Moon Over Soho until the end. I just thought what a randy young thing Peter is, how odd, he didn't seem so uhh highly-sexed in the first book...)

Date: 2013-07-01 10:01 pm (UTC)
mme_hardy: White rose (Default)
From: [personal profile] mme_hardy
I am sitting right here going "Plots? What plots?" But I remember the personalities of all the Rivers, yes indeedy.

Date: 2013-07-01 10:12 pm (UTC)
flemmings: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flemmings
But what I love is that in all these weird cases of the week (starting with the most forgettable vampires in all Urban Fantasy) police procedures and protocols must be followed and paperwork filed and no infringing some other department's bailiwick. It really is **the police.** Dunno why that surprises me so much.

Date: 2013-07-01 10:09 pm (UTC)
oyceter: teruterubouzu default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
And after clicking on the spoiler cut, I am moving the second book higher on my TBR list! (Not that it probably matters, since I have been doing so little reading lately, but still, it makes a difference in my head.) I was really, really worried Leslie would fall out of the story after the events of book 1 and am so happy to hear that it is not the case!

Date: 2013-07-01 10:58 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Books don't forget to fly)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
*adds all these books to my to read pile* I love the books you find and after ALA, I have so many books to read and I'm going to do my best to write about them.

Date: 2013-07-02 02:06 am (UTC)
pedanther: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pedanther
I love this series. Then again, I love just about everything Ben Aaronovitch has ever written.

Date: 2013-07-02 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pedanther
What he was most famous for in his days as a screenwriter was he worked on the last couple of seasons of Old Doctor Who. His first few novels were Doctor Who spin-offs, too.

Actually, his very first novel, Remembrance of the Daleks, got re-released this year as part of the run-up to the 50th Anniversary celebration. It's a bit clunkier than I thought it was when it and I were both twenty years younger, but it's still one of my particular favourites of his novels. And on the other hand, one thing I appreciate now that went straight past me as a kid is that it shows Aaronovitch was already committed to depicting characters from other cultures as individuals who are shaped but not wholly defined by their backgrounds. Even the Daleks.

The other one of his Doctor Who novels that's a particular favourite of mine is The Also People (which, alas, has not been reprinted). In which the Doctor takes his companions on holiday in a highly-advanced alien society that has all the sensawunda of an Iain M. Banks novel (there's a cryptic acknowledgement of the inspiration in the foreword), but unlike any Iain M. Banks novel I ever read is populated with people I actually enjoyed spending time with. And of course somebody gets murdered, because you couldn't just have the Doctor & Co. on holiday for 280 pages, but in some ways that's really not the point.

Date: 2013-07-02 03:54 am (UTC)
thistleingrey: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
Okay, did they respell "Lesley" for US readers? She is definitely not Leslie in the UK printings. Weird. Anyway, yes, much <3 for her and for (haha) paperwork and comeuppance.

Date: 2013-07-02 10:27 am (UTC)
lacewood: (books books books)
From: [personal profile] lacewood
I LOVE THESE BOOKS. And Lesley's story is a pretty big reason! I love how messy and complicated Lesley's story gets to be, and yet it's clearly her story and Peter never gets to manpain about it because it's not the point.

The other reason is also flat out Peter is the worst superhero ever. Learning to do magic? Tell your best friend! Tell your mom! Tell your neighbour's kid. Secret identities and double lives are things that happen to other people. (It's also awesome that Peter HAS people to tell? And so does everyone in the cast? They actually get to have families! WOW HOW WEIRD IS THAT)

Date: 2013-07-02 02:39 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I have big hopes that the end game is magic coming out.

(There is a really awesome Yuletide story this past year, 10K, Nightingale POV, that runs with this idea. I cannot link because work, but: so good.)

I love these books so much and am so sad that the US release of the fourth is delayed and I will have to resort to means of varying degrees of shadyness to get it early. And it's such a _relief_ to read a book with a biracial protagonist where the fact of his non-white ancestry *is actually shown to matter*, plus all the other people (I have a few twinges about the humorless lesbian higher-up whose name I can't remember how to spell, but she's so clearly respected and competent that I think I'm okay with her).

Date: 2013-07-02 03:06 pm (UTC)
mme_hardy: White rose (Default)
From: [personal profile] mme_hardy
I was just setting up a perfectly legal order from amazon.co.uk. Do you know what happened with the U.S. edition? Sales unacceptable?

Date: 2013-07-02 03:16 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu

Sorry, it's the ebook thing that makes me have to resort to Means.

I gather from the author's blog that he finished it a very short time ago and so the US publisher might have needed the time for the ordinary mechanisms of production; the books are bestsellers in the UK but I don't get the impression that they're so popular in the US that they warrant the all-hands-on-deck production that Robert Jordan got back in the day.

Date: 2013-07-03 12:56 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu

Sorry, imprecise, it's later than the UK edition, but it never had an earlier US release date.

Fic now that I'm at home:

Though I Sang in My Chains Like the Sea (10732 words) by lightgetsin
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Rivers of London - Ben Aaronovitch
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Characters: Thomas Nightingale, Peter Grant, Miriam Stephanopoulos, Lesley May
Additional Tags: Mystery, Case Fic, Queer Characters, Characters of color, Character Study, Families of Choice
Summary:

“The world has changed. Yes. I receive undeniable proof of that every day when that electronic coffee pot of yours starts up on its own.”

Date: 2013-07-04 09:18 pm (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Watercolour of barn owl perched on post. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
have a few twinges about the humorless lesbian higher-up whose name I can't remember how to spell, but she's so clearly respected and competent that I think I'm okay with her)

I've always put that down to being at least partly Stephanopolus' strategy for surviving and indeed thriving in the Met, which is not exactly notorious for being an enlightened institution....

Date: 2013-07-04 10:34 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu

Very possible! I love her, regardless, and I'm fairly sure the narrative wants me to, but...

Date: 2013-07-05 10:50 am (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Watercolour of barn owl perched on post. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
I'm not sure she *is* totally humourless; the ways she talks about her partner ("her indoors") is definitely parodying a certain kind of unreconstructed working class masculinity, and I think it is parodying it, rather than imitating it purely to be one of the boys. At least that's how it struck me.

Date: 2013-07-03 03:40 am (UTC)
lacewood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lacewood
Haha to be fair to Peter, most of these people found out because they were, well, PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, and they need to know what they're actually INVESTIGATING... (also great: you don't need magic to be a competent cop)

On the other hand Peter had NO EXCUSE FOR ABIGAIL, which is what makes her especially hilarious. XD And meanwhile Nightingale is just left standing there with a resigned expression as Peter flails around distributing information to all and sundry and doubles the size of his department/number of students in less than a year, and only draws the line at Peter teaching other people his SLOPPY MAGIC, THE HORROR.

Date: 2013-07-02 02:24 pm (UTC)
oracne: turtle (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracne
THESE BOOKS ARE SO AWESOME.

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