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The Black Count: Glory, Revolution, Betrayal and the Real Count of Monte Cristo is a biography of Alexandre Dumas the first, which is to say the father of the guy who wrote The Three Musketeers and Count of Monte Cristo and all those other swashbuckling French books about extremely dashing assholes.

The book is really good and really interesting for a number of reasons! Alex Dumas grand-pere was born in Saint-Domingue, which is now Haiti, the son of an aristocratic French count and planter-turned-convict and an enslaved woman named Marie-Cessette Dumas. He eventually became a general-in-chief in France's army -- according to Wikipedia, still the highest rank ever held by a person of color in a continental European army -- and the story of his career and success is one hundred percent tied up in the story of France's treatment of race and slavery around the time of the Revolution, and those, like, FIVE YEARS before Napoleon came in when slavery was illegal and people of any race had full rights in France. All this history is incredibly fascinating, although there came a point halfway through where I was like "I don't want to read anymore, everything seems pretty good right now and I know in fifty pages it's all going to go to hell again!"

However, the most amazing thing about Dumas grand-pere was that it really, honestly seems like he wasn't ... an asshole ... at all?

Like, look, okay, I love Alexandre Dumas novels as much as anybody, but we can ALL AGREE that there are no characters in his novels who are not assholes. EVERYBODY'S A JERK. Callous disregard for bystanders, noncombatants and human life in general is the rule of the day!

And even aside from the principles of assholery set by Dumas, if you read biographies of historical famous people -- ESPECIALLY people who were famous for military performance during bloody and controversial periods such as the French Revolution -- you generally sort of expect that there's going to come a moment when the standards of acceptable behavior during the day jar sharply against modern standards, and you're going to think, "wow, what an asshole."

NOT SO WITH ALEX DUMAS. Alex Dumas made a point of protecting noncombatants and preventing his soldiers from looting and pillaging! During the revolution, people made fun of him for refusing to watch executions, and called him "Mr. Humanity!" He appears to have been adorably in love with his wife, and vice versa! When Napoleon asked him to expel the women from a local region he was occupying, he wrote back to be like, "dude, come on, where are they supposed to go!" For a while he was in charge of a region that had just undergone a massive crackdown against anti-Revolution insurgents in which EVERYBODY had been EXTREME, MASSACRING ASSHOLES, and appears to have been the only person involved to receive later praise from both sides for being generally fair-minded, equitable, and not a dick!

Which of course begs the question of where the heck Alexandre Dumas the writer got his ideas of acceptable standards of behavior from. Like, this book makes the argument that a lot of the stuff in Count of Monte Cristo is inspired by some of Alex Dumas' later experiences, which I'm willing to buy, but one gets the general impression that Alex Dumas would have HATED Edmond Dantes. What do you mean, your revenge scheme involves ruining twenty unrelated lives? NOT COOL.

...and he would have said it loudly, too, because while Alex Dumas was not a dick, he was also not ... discreet ...

Here is everybody's favorite Dumas letter, reproduced in full:

GENERAL,
I have learned that the jack ass whose business it is to report to you upon the battle of the 27th stated that I stayed in observation throughout that battle. I don’t wish any such observation on him, since he would have shit in his pants.
Salute and Brotherhood!
ALEX. DUMAS.


ADMIRABLY SUCCINCT.

Basically though the end result is that I am now going to have way more of a problem excusing assholish behavior in historical figures. My standards have been raised! What do you mean, no one at the time would have seen anything wrong with that? ALEX DUMAS WOULD NEVER HAVE LET THAT SLIDE.

Date: 2014-02-04 02:39 pm (UTC)
cinaed: Tough times don't last, tough people do, remember? (Gregory Peck)
From: [personal profile] cinaed
ALEX DUMAS IS THE BEST.

*sings a la There She Is Miss America*

There he isssss, Mister Humanityyyyyy.
There he is, your ideal.


(And yeah, I don't really get where Dumas pere got "let's base this character on my father but make him an asshole" thing from...oh, Dumas pere....)

Also, his relationship with his wife is one of the cutest things ever, oh gosh, from how they met to how hard she fought to try and the government to rescue him when he was a prisoner of war.

...also, this book is how I descended into reading non-stop historical non-fiction for the past month or two, hahahaha, um. And now own both The Black Count as well as two different biographies on the Chevalier de Saint-Georges and have checked out three or four books about other people from that time period, WHOOPS.

Date: 2014-02-04 02:48 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
AMAZING. Thank you!
Edited (why does my shift key keep catching the letter before an exclamation mark?) Date: 2014-02-04 02:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-04 02:52 pm (UTC)
zulu: Carson Shaw looking up at Greta Gill (Default)
From: [personal profile] zulu
Hee, sounds like a terrific book!

Date: 2014-02-04 03:04 pm (UTC)
vivien: picture of me drunk and giggling (Default)
From: [personal profile] vivien
Intriguing!

Maybe the spin came from Dumas Jr being a little embarrassed by awesome Dumas Sr. "But Daaaaad, why can't you be an asshole like all the rest of the kids' dads?"

Date: 2014-02-04 03:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ambyr
That is an AMAZING letter.
Edited Date: 2014-02-04 03:22 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-04 04:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dorothean
I have to read this!

Date: 2014-02-04 04:38 pm (UTC)
evewithanapple: evelyn caranahan, extremely drunk | inthe_sunshine @ lj (mummy | here's how they replied)
From: [personal profile] evewithanapple
Alex Dumas came off as such a badass and also SO NICE in that book. He loved his wife so much! He went home on leave to hug his kids! He protected civilians! FOUR FOR YOU, ALEX DUMAS.

(That story in the prologue about Dumas pere grabbing a sword to go and kill God for killing his dad made me lol and awww at the same time.)

Date: 2014-02-04 05:18 pm (UTC)
esmenet: Little!Anthy with swords (Default)
From: [personal profile] esmenet
I always have trouble reading about historical figures, because I always have this moment of 'GOSH you're an asshole, why do I even care'. But it sounds like Alex Dumas is a guy you'd want to hang out with! I'll have to read up on him.

(Eugenie and her girlfriend were pretty nice! Admittedly, they were basically the only ones.)

Date: 2014-02-04 06:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I'm so glad that you read and liked this book. It was fascinating and Alex Dumas was just the best.

Date: 2014-02-04 06:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] musesfool
I have this on my "for later" shelf from the library, but maybe I will bump it up, since it sounds AMAZING.

Date: 2014-02-04 06:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cahn
This sounds awesome and I need to read it! (As soon as I finish Double Cross :P)

Now you have to read King of Paris by Guy Endore, which is a novel, or maybe novelized history -- it's not history and Endore totally makes things up and is not shy about it, but grounded in history -- about Alexandre Dumas pere et fils. Now, after reading that book, I'm rather convinced that Dumas-pere was an asshole. A really interesting and fascinating one, that I loved reading about! But still. I am firmly convinced that all the asshole characters in his books are based on him, not his father :)

(It is out of print. Here's an online link, which is full of typos and appears to be about someone named "Alexandra." My review is here.

Date: 2014-02-04 06:29 pm (UTC)
onyxlynx: Nondescript stack of old hardcover books (Stack of books)
From: [personal profile] onyxlynx
Hmmmm…and the library is just a couple of blocks away…thanks.

Date: 2014-02-04 08:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oyceter
THAT LETTER IS BEST!

Have the book, now bumping it up the TBR queue.

Date: 2014-02-04 09:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hokuton_punch
... oh my gods, I have a new historical role model. *_______________*

Date: 2014-02-05 07:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jinian
DO SO.

Date: 2014-02-06 01:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bobcatmoran
That letter is AMAZING. Also, I think I may have to read this book now...

Date: 2014-02-11 01:35 am (UTC)
sanguinity: woodcut by M.C. Escher, "Snakes" (Default)
From: [personal profile] sanguinity
Oh, lovely. I've been meaning to read this for a while, and this only makes me look forward to it more.

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