...Incredible I need to finish this at some point.
The anti-transmigrator plots -- not that I have a super good idea of the genre as a whole, but there's probably a fair comparison to the anti-mary sue fics from when I was the tiniest of tweens of ages ago, given how "sue" continues to be a descriptor lots of fics use. It's probably best to start with the beats of the transmigration genre, where....you have your Spunky/Free modern day girl/guy come to bring the Unshackled Blitheness in contrast to all the dullards and timorous maidens of the past, sparking the interest of your average princeling/emperor/wuxia master and so on!
They address the sheer thoughtlessness of importing in modern day innovations by the truckload (there was a time when I thought the 1632 series was cringey for doing what it did but then I sat through a bunch of fics where they ALL import glassmaking, soap, chili peppers/tomatoes/potatoes, modern day advertising schemes and other business models, gunpowder, the accumulated cultural capital of the last few millennia etc etc etc)....And the arrogance that a lot of modern day transmigrators held over the unenlightened people of the past. What I tend to see in the narrow selection of fic I've read is more than one person transmigrating, as here (modulo censorship) and having one person do the old style transmigration while the other person acts in more suitable ways. If you're familiar with the concept of 'face-slapping' or people getting their comeuppance in various ways, those are fairly common!
I remember one fic where the person who transmigrated earlier has arrived at her happily ever after of her novel -- but in reality the emperor has used her as any sensible ruler would, her modern virtues like "respect for human rights" has eroded away under the exigencies of life as empress, and you kind of wonder what separates MC of the novel we're reading from that character if not for sheer luck of which person he became. (this one: http://www.jjwxc.net/onebook.php?novelid=4177552 Transmigrating into the male secondary character's eldest son] which is a bit of a mouthful and only six words originally T__T)
More broadly, I feel like the churn of the genre has allowed for a lot of deconstruction plot trope setups to become popular - it's hard to turn around these last few years without hitting a title with a "as the villain/generic passerby/secondary character/cannon fodder etc", and in that context, as a lot of the original transmigrator fics (now probably at least...one decade along? they started much earlier than that, I know) had your typical protagonist whose aura causes the plot to bend around them (like lymond).....
...I haven't really read that many anti-transmigration plots recently but yeah, there was a time when most transmigrators would plagiarise the literary fruits of all the poets they memorized at school by passing that off as their own. The fashion has changed decisively so that either people source it as "oh, I heard it from a traveling master surnamed Li" or they're exposed with ease, since they don't tend to believe the...ability of people to come up with writing that doesn't correspond to the author's own lived experiences. (a tiny sheltered teen coming up with the verses of an embittered official replete with knowledge about the brutality of the court, etc)
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Date: 2021-02-01 10:12 am (UTC)The anti-transmigrator plots -- not that I have a super good idea of the genre as a whole, but there's probably a fair comparison to the anti-mary sue fics from when I was the tiniest of tweens of ages ago, given how "sue" continues to be a descriptor lots of fics use. It's probably best to start with the beats of the transmigration genre, where....you have your Spunky/Free modern day girl/guy come to bring the Unshackled Blitheness in contrast to all the dullards and timorous maidens of the past, sparking the interest of your average princeling/emperor/wuxia master and so on!
They address the sheer thoughtlessness of importing in modern day innovations by the truckload (there was a time when I thought the 1632 series was cringey for doing what it did but then I sat through a bunch of fics where they ALL import glassmaking, soap, chili peppers/tomatoes/potatoes, modern day advertising schemes and other business models, gunpowder, the accumulated cultural capital of the last few millennia etc etc etc)....And the arrogance that a lot of modern day transmigrators held over the unenlightened people of the past. What I tend to see in the narrow selection of fic I've read is more than one person transmigrating, as here (modulo censorship) and having one person do the old style transmigration while the other person acts in more suitable ways. If you're familiar with the concept of 'face-slapping' or people getting their comeuppance in various ways, those are fairly common!
I remember one fic where the person who transmigrated earlier has arrived at her happily ever after of her novel -- but in reality the emperor has used her as any sensible ruler would, her modern virtues like "respect for human rights" has eroded away under the exigencies of life as empress, and you kind of wonder what separates MC of the novel we're reading from that character if not for sheer luck of which person he became. (this one: http://www.jjwxc.net/onebook.php?novelid=4177552 Transmigrating into the male secondary character's eldest son] which is a bit of a mouthful and only six words originally T__T)
More broadly, I feel like the churn of the genre has allowed for a lot of deconstruction plot trope setups to become popular - it's hard to turn around these last few years without hitting a title with a "as the villain/generic passerby/secondary character/cannon fodder etc", and in that context, as a lot of the original transmigrator fics (now probably at least...one decade along? they started much earlier than that, I know) had your typical protagonist whose aura causes the plot to bend around them (like lymond).....
...I haven't really read that many anti-transmigration plots recently but yeah, there was a time when most transmigrators would plagiarise the literary fruits of all the poets they memorized at school by passing that off as their own. The fashion has changed decisively so that either people source it as "oh, I heard it from a traveling master surnamed Li" or they're exposed with ease, since they don't tend to believe the...ability of people to come up with writing that doesn't correspond to the author's own lived experiences. (a tiny sheltered teen coming up with the verses of an embittered official replete with knowledge about the brutality of the court, etc)