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Since my absentee ballot never arrived, today I took an early-morning bus down to Philadelphia to vote! Now I am sitting in 30th Street Station, tired but aglow with virtuous citizenship.

Anyway. That being done, I think it is time to stick my head in the sand for the rest of the day and post about the fluffiest thing I have read recently, Julia Quinn's A Night Like This, which I picked up in desperation from the cheap airport bookstore when I realized I was out of reading material on the flight home from DragonCon.

This is a Regency romance novel with a plot that goes something like this:

HERO: I've been away from home because of my Dark Past, WHO IS THIS STRANGE AND SEXY LADY?
HEROINE: I am your cousins' governess! I also have a Dark Secret.
HERO: If you wanted you could also be . . . my GIRLFRIEND. In defiance of social mores and all that but this is a fluffy Regency so who cares about those!
HEROINE: I care about those, because yes, on the one hand, you're very hot, on the other hand, I could lose my job, so please go away.
HERO: I can't go away. I love my cute little cousins. I have to spend EVERY DAY around my cute little cousins. For REASONS.
COUSINS: . . . you never loved us that much before we got a hot governess. We're just saying.
HEROINE: >.<
(THE PLOT: I'm here! I involve, like, a villain and a murder plot and REVENGE and kidnapping and all kinds of dramatic stuff, but you'd never know it from the first three-quarters of the book.
REGENCY MORES: We are also here! But you'd never know it from the last quarter of the book when everyone's like "sure, follow your heart I guess!" and nobody actually cares.)

So predictably, I did not care about the plot, but I was fully entertained by all the fluffy wacky family hijinks to do with governessing and the cousins, including The One Who Wants To Be A Great Playwright and The One Who Wants To Be A Unicorn.

Equally predictably I had very little patience for the hero, because a dude who sticks around when a lady has made it very clear that it would negatively impact her life for him to stick around is not a dude who gets a lot of respect from me.

This sort of seems to be a pattern when I read historical romance novels that are not written by Georgette Heyer, but on the other hand my sample size is I think about two? So I'm still keeping my mind open!

(Okay, that are not written by Georgette Heyer or by [personal profile] qian.)
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Date: 2012-11-06 07:54 pm (UTC)
oyceter: teruterubouzu default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
Ahahaha, I love Kinsale, but Kinsale is kind of like the romance novel equivalent of Yuki Kaori. One grows to expect white ninjas or desert island shipwrecks everywhere.

Carla Kelly is much less funny and fluffy but much more realistically Regency, if that's to your taste.

My new fav is Courtney Milan, who writes mid-Victorian and tends to have fairly unstandard romance plots and heroes. The politics are a bit modern, but given that it's often about class instead of Pasted-On Feminism, that's okay by me.

But yeah, romance tropes are kind of their own thing all together...

Date: 2012-11-06 07:58 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Books don't forget to fly)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I recommend Courtney Milan for good historical romances that are of Heyer's DNA but steamier and with tougher plots. I love her stuff and her heroines know and get what they want.

Date: 2012-11-06 08:15 pm (UTC)
oyceter: teruterubouzu default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
Yeah, most of my fav romance authors don't show up in airport bookstores =(. I think especially now that Milan's going self pub, it's even less likely boooooo.

What else is on your romance reading list? What are you looking for? (I am very self-serving and always looking for more people to talk romance with.)

Date: 2012-11-06 08:24 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (feathered face)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
A lot of her books are for sale fairly cheap, so she's not too much of an investment. I'm cautiously dipping my toes into reading romance but Courtney Milan convinced me that there's great stuff out there.

Date: 2012-11-06 08:28 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (disney maid marian fangirl)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I would love to be able to buy Courtney Milan in a bookstore. I won a copy of Unveiled from Smart Bitches, Trashy Books and reading her books on my phone got me through not having power during the summer.

But I'd love to have more of her books in print, so I could hand them to people and go read this.

I am FULL of unsolicited advice this week

Date: 2012-11-06 08:28 pm (UTC)
coffeeandink: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coffeeandink
I second the rec for Carla Kelly (just don't read Beau Crusoe. My favorite is probably The Lady's Companion.) I also like:


  • Tracy Grant
  • Megan Chance
  • Meredith Duran (um, maybe avoid At Your Pleasure)
  • Loretta Chase
  • Jo Beverley (I have gotten way behind on her, but BPL has My Lady Notorious, which I remember liking a lot)
  • Judith Ivory (I think you would appreciate Beast)
  • Dedication by Janet Mullany
  • Earlier Teresa Medeiros
  • some Sherry Thomas (Not Quite A Husband will not meet your consent specifications, avoid)
  • Connie Brockway
  • Lydia Joyce


For historical romances about POC: Beverly Jenkins and Jeannie Lin.

Of course, Kinsale is my very favorite, so you may not want to trust me on this.
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Date: 2012-11-06 08:29 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Tom on the banister)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Yes, you do, one of the books is on sale for 3.99, there are two short stories for 99 cents and she's part of an anthology for 3.99. These prices are all from iBooks so might be different on Kindle but probably not.

Date: 2012-11-06 08:34 pm (UTC)
oyceter: teruterubouzu default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
\o/!! I don't know if she's still being stocked; I know romances go OOP really really really fast, and her first books are published under Harlequin, which doesn't have that much of a shelf life. Though it is the Harlequin non-series line, so it doesn't rotate monthly.

So AFAIK, Proof by Seduction (okay but has Roma brownface boooo), Trial by Desire (one of my favs, has white hero in Opium War China that doesn't make me want to throw things), Unveiled, and Unclaimed (virgin hero meets courtesan determined to seduce him) are published and hopefully still in print somewhere, but everything after that is self-pubbed and probably not stocked in local bookstores because of that. Though apparently you can get them in print via Amazon!

The good thing about her self-pubbed books is that her personal copyright policy okays lending her books out to people, so you aren't circumventing copyright!

Re: I am FULL of unsolicited advice this week

Date: 2012-11-06 08:35 pm (UTC)
oyceter: teruterubouzu default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
HEE I was just about to point her to you!

Date: 2012-11-06 08:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-11-06 08:38 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (candy raspberries)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Amazon's seemed like my best bet so far and maybe once I'm moved and have figured out money, I'll buy more of her books.

Date: 2012-11-06 08:43 pm (UTC)
oyceter: teruterubouzu default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
WHOO RECCING!

Gothics
I'm pretty poorly read in this area. Barbara Michaels is shorter on the romance factor than most genre romance, but I've liked some of what I've read a lot. My fav has been Into the Darkness. Mary Stewart does the other fairly famous gothics; I think her best known ones are Nine Coaches Waiting and maybe The Ivy Tree. I've read the latter because [personal profile] rachelmanija sicced it on me. Anne Stuart is very gothic-esque. I don't like her as much as [personal profile] coffeeandink does because she's much more straight gothic, but YMMV? Lydia Joyce put out some interesting takes on gothics, my fav of which is Veil of the Night (warning: all her titles sound the same! Even more so than most romance!), which I think skewers BatB.

Screwball hijinks
Loretta Chase!! Her earlier Regencies are lighter but good, though I have been warned off Sandalwood Princess for terrible Orientalism. Alas, she also engages in this for Lion's Daughter and maybe something else. I think her best is still Lord of Scoundrels, which has one of my fav romance heroines ever and pokes fun at the angsty broody hero type.

Jennifer Crusie is good for modern stuff, though she's stopped writing romance genre IIRC. I like Faking It and Bet Me best, and she's very feminist, albeit in a very white middle-class way.

(doh have to go now but I am sure I will spam you more later....)

Re: I am FULL of unsolicited advice this week

Date: 2012-11-06 08:47 pm (UTC)
coffeeandink: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coffeeandink
Seize the Fire has penguins. I am just saying.

Well, also PTSD, so the general level of wacky hijinks is relatively low. For Kinsale.

I would probably recommend starting with Flowers from the Storm. This is the one with the stern Quaker woman and the mathematician duke who develops aphasia after a stroke. (Oh, Laura Kinsale. So my favorite.)

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Date: 2012-11-06 08:49 pm (UTC)
coffeeandink: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coffeeandink
Oh, good, that wasn't just me. I thought I might have just been in a bad mood on that one. I have stopped keeping up with her post-Beau Crusoe because ugh.

Date: 2012-11-06 08:51 pm (UTC)
jothra: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jothra
I am impressed by your citizenship!

Date: 2012-11-06 08:53 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
She's not 100% but I am pretty sure you will like _Lord of Scoundrels_.

Also yes to Jennifer Crusie--I also like _Bet Me_, though I think _Faking It_ is kind of overstuffed plot-wise (a thing with her books), and also like her co-written _Agnes and the Hitman_ for chosen-family stuff.

Date: 2012-11-06 08:56 pm (UTC)
aamalie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aamalie
Julia Quinn! Did we ever manage to suck you down into the nerd-wide Bridgertons series pit? Because (if not) while its 7 books range in quality, it is HIGH on the amazing family hijinks + ridiculous romance.
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