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Tuesday Mooney Talks to Ghosts was described to me as "like the Westing Game, for adults, but also intensely Boston" and I am happy to report that this description is completely accurate -- especially the Intensely Boston bit. I hit this paragraph and I had to put the book down for the moment and reel at the truly devastating accuracy:

"They all considered themselves Black Cats, but within that there were subgroups, treasure-hunting gangs like pub trivia teams, representing their corners of Greater Boston. The Smoots had MIT; the Gay Mafia covered Eastie; The Highlanders, Somerville; The Green Monsters and Challahback Girls, Fenway and Brookline. Adama Is A Cylon -- the name of a trivia team she and Dex had gone up against more than once, which couldn't be a coincidence -- had parts of Cambridge."

YEAH, OK.

(I still want to know where the place is near the MFA that Lila Korrapati got an incredible-sounding falafel on the night she met Vincent Pryce? Please, Kate Racculia! Tell me what you know! A sincere plea from a falafel-starved ex-New Yorker.)

Anyway, the plot! Vincent Pryce is an elderly eccentric who dies dramatically of a heart attack at a charity auction, then launches a posthumous series of announcements inviting the city of Boston to participate in an elaborate treasure hunt game. Protagonists enmeshed in the quest include:

- Tuesday Mooney, most protagonist-y protagonist, a donor prospect researcher at a local hospital who declares herself perfectly satisfied with both her pleasantly detective-y job and her self-defined lifestyle as a Cool Goth Loner until the lure off the treasure hunt pulls her dramatically off-course
- Poindexter (Dex) Howard, Tuesday Mooney's current best friend by dint of constant effort on his part; a born diva who feels required to squash the most interesting parts of himself down most of the time to maintain his comfortable lifestyle and boring finance job and series of cute but boring boyfriends, and Has Regrets
- Dorry Bones, Tuesday's next-door-neighbor and occasional tutee, a sad and lonely teen not coping very well with her mother's death who thinks Cool Goth Loner Tuesday is just the absolute knees of the bees and is DELIGHTED by the opportunity to help her with a treasure hunt - until Tuesday gets distracted, and Dorry starts wondering if she can play on her own
- Archie, a hot-but-problematic billionaire scion with a missing-presumed-dead father, a dramatically unhealthy family, and a mysterious tie to the dead Vincent Pryce, who wants to team up with Tuesday on the treasure hunt for Reasons Of His Own

The journey to pursue Vincent Pryce's clues brings up a moderate level of metaphorical and/or literal haunting from everyone's personal ghosts (for Tuesday it's the best friend who vanished in high school; for Dorry, her mother; for Dex, the version of himself that he wanted to be) while putting tension on their connections to each other -- one of the most endearing things about the book is that, although pretty much everyone gets their own B-plot romance, the emotional foreground is on the complexity of the friendships between Tuesday + Dex and Tuesday + Dorry. The Tuesday-Dex dynamic felt especially real to me, an incredibly relatable grown-up friendship that began as Casual Work Hangs and through the course of both time and conscious effort and various inequal levels of investment on one side or the other has grown into something that's actually deeply significant. I love it and I care very much!

Also I have just lived in Boston long enough by now that it's just a delight to read a book that's so very Boston. I mean, it's extremely Boston in a number of ways; it's incredibly nerdy, deeply aware and possibly a little too proud of its own geek cred, a little too ready to be charmed by the glamor of its wealthiest and most privileged characters and to give itself credit for queer joyous progressive spirit without really grappling at all with the city's underlying systemic inequalities ... like, I think it's also worth noting the absence of Dorchester or Roxbury in the paragraph I quoted above. And Archie is a poor little rich boy with a tragic backstory, and Dex is a finance guy who feels kind of bad about negative world impact of his job, and Vincent Pryce is a good, fun, wacky billionaire. You know. But I do also love the Boston that Kate Racculia loves, too.

Date: 2020-07-11 03:29 pm (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (Default)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
This sounds completely up my alley - going to check it out immediately!

Date: 2020-07-11 04:56 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I still want to know where the place is near the MFA that Lila Korrapati got an incredible-sounding falafel on the night she met Vincent Pryce?

Probably Boston Shawarma. They were always mobbed by students every time we walked by. Technically they're closer to Northeastern than the MFA, but still less than ten minutes on foot from the museum. Now I want falafel.

Date: 2020-07-11 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bironic
Was coming here to say the same! Lots of dives over there.

Or maybe something in the Fenway area... https://g.page/sufra-mediterranean-food?share

Date: 2020-07-13 06:29 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Morell: quizzical)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I also want falafel now.

Is there any near you? (Can you make some?)

Date: 2020-07-11 05:26 pm (UTC)
lirazel: An outdoor scene from the 2005 film Pride and Prejudice of Lizzie and her aunt and uncle reading at the foot of a tree ([film] extensive reading)
From: [personal profile] lirazel
You had me at "The Westing Game for adults." What a favorite that book is! If this one's half as good, it's well worth checking out!
Edited Date: 2020-07-11 06:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-07-11 05:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aamcnamara
a little too ready to be charmed by the glamor of its wealthiest and most privileged characters and to give itself credit for queer joyous progressive spirit without really grappling at all with the city's underlying systemic inequalities
yeahhhh.... which, I mean, doesn't not fall in line with The Westing Game's cheerful 1970s multiculturalism...

It is such a fun book, though.

Date: 2020-07-11 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superborb
I'm #31 in line for the single ebook copy in my library, so maybe I'll be able to read this next year haha

Date: 2020-07-11 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] themis1
I'm rather puzzled by the fact Amazon UK appears to have the same book with the title 'Tuesday Mooney wore black'. Isthis one of those weird publishing decisions?? (It's a lot cheaper than the hardback of 'talks to ghosts')

Date: 2020-07-11 09:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sbrackett
I think that's the same book.

Date: 2020-07-12 01:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pedanther
Yeah, this is one of those cases where the UK publisher gave the book a different title from the US publisher.

Date: 2020-07-11 09:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sbrackett
Eee I loved this book.

I think part of it is that I just found the characters kind of relateable (mostly Tuesday) and I want more recommendations of books with early 30s/late 20s characters. I also loved the Boston, but from the perspective of "yesss I've never lived here but I've visited and want to keep coming back and getting to know the place better so tell me more."

What are Dorchester or Roxbury like? I'm very curious about Boston neighborhoods in general as my exploration has started from places-my-friends-talk-about-or-live-in which is Camberville and maybe Arlington neither of which is actually Boston and I do have a tendency to be stuck inside Building 46 at MIT for a lot of the time I'm in the area so that's not totally proximate to much Boston either...

Date: 2020-07-11 11:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chestnut_pod
Seconding the question!

Date: 2020-07-14 03:16 am (UTC)
sbrackett: Beauty and the Beast illustration by Mercer Mayer (Default)
From: [personal profile] sbrackett
Mm. As a person who doesn't live there I'm trying to get a better grasp of all the neighborhoods that aren't Camberville in general.

Date: 2020-07-12 01:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] teenybuffalo
Dorchester is cool. I lived there for about two years, from mid-2012 to early 2015, in a huge shared house with six housemates. At that time, the neighborhood I was in had a big Vietnamese-American community and a big Haitian-American and Caribbean community. It's the only neighborhood I've lived in where there were a lot of young families with kids running around. The best restaurants in the area were Jamaican and Caribbean and Brazilian, but I didn't tend to eat at them because it was hard to find a vegetarian option. There were a couple of gas stations that were incredibly cheap but cash-only and always had a long line out the front. The branch library was just far enough from public transit and so run-down looking that I don't think I ever went to it, preferring the BPL main branch. There were and are a lot of huge old fancy houses that are slightly run-down and hard to heat. I lived in one.

The area was also gentrifying fast when I lived there -- fancy blocky condo buildings erupting out of every street, plus a few old brick apartment buildings and row houses being spiffed up inside and rented to hipsters at a huge sum. I don't think of myself as part of the problem because I was renting a finished attic bedroom in a shared house that had been virtually a commune since the 80s, but maybe that's giving myself too much credit.

The area I was in was apparently crime-ridden in the 1990s, but that was long done by the time I moved in. I heard a few instances of not-quite-spoken racism from white people not from Dorchester, who found out I was a white woman living in Dorchester. I don't know what the experience of being, say, Haitian and from Dot is like, but it's the only area where I've lived that hasn't been majority white, which is one more thing I liked about Dot. Boston is hella segregated for the most part.

Dorchester used to be The Irish Immigrant Neighborhood, I seem to recall. There's a majority Irish neighborhood with its own pubs and shops in another part of Dot, but as it wasn't on public transit I didn't spend much time there. There's a neighborhood called Lower Mills which I would occasionally walk to for ice cream, and it had a cute little double row of restaurants and shops with an Irish pub that had a session Monday nights. Near there was a waterfront area on the Neponset River with a cove with boat docks and a path along the river where I used to sit and watch the ducks. There's a beach near the JFK/UMass T stop. It's nothing special but it's a beach, and I went swimming there a few times in the summers.
Edited Date: 2020-07-12 01:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-07-12 02:15 am (UTC)
sbrackett: Beauty and the Beast illustration by Mercer Mayer (Default)
From: [personal profile] sbrackett
Ooh! That gives me a good idea. I guess I also want to know, for all of Boston, and probably for other places in other states too, where the weird/amazing/enchanting things are you can't find anywhere else.

Like maybe it isn't totally weird or amazing but there's a map store on Mass Ave somewhere between Harvard and Porter. I love weird little shops. I also love walking along the Fens, and going to the Gardiner, and combining these two activities of course.

Date: 2020-07-13 05:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
Like maybe it isn't totally weird or amazing but there's a map store on Mass Ave somewhere between Harvard and Porter.

Ward Maps is totally amazing! In 2012, I bought from them a magnificent paper object entitled The Boston Terminal Co. Diagram of Tracks and Signals. Resident Engineer's Office. Boston, May 28, 1905. NOT TO SCALE. It looks like the layout for a circuit board, only instead of transistors and capacitors, the components are labeled things like "Power House Yard," "Express Yard," "Atlantic Ave. Bridge," and "Subway Tracks." It's behind me in my office as we speak. I also got a pamphlet for the 1914 Boylston Street Subway from them once.

Date: 2020-07-14 03:17 am (UTC)
sbrackett: Beauty and the Beast illustration by Mercer Mayer (Default)
From: [personal profile] sbrackett
Yay! I found it on google maps because I would zoom in on commercial strips before going to Boston on a trip to find places to check out and I guess it worked in the case of Ward Maps but I also want recommendations from locals because "I randomly found it using google" is maybe a weird way to find places.

Date: 2020-07-12 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aamcnamara
Becca may be able to elucidate more, but, what's relevant here is that they are the historically Black neighborhoods of Boston. (Where the Great Migration fetched up in the region, basically.)

Date: 2020-07-14 03:17 am (UTC)
sbrackett: Beauty and the Beast illustration by Mercer Mayer (Default)
From: [personal profile] sbrackett
Ooh I will check that out!

Date: 2020-07-11 11:13 pm (UTC)
chestnut_pod: A close-up photograph of my auburn hair in a French braid (Default)
From: [personal profile] chestnut_pod
Oh, this sounds like fun. I love books that want to be About a place, and not in the "the city is also a character" kind of way.

Date: 2020-07-14 03:26 am (UTC)
sovay: (Lord Peter Wimsey: passion)
From: [personal profile] sovay
It sort of puts the sense of wonder back into the world one interacts with on the regular, if you know what I mean.

That is excellent writing-of-place.

Date: 2020-07-12 01:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seekingferret
That was really charming, I just mainlined it in one sitting. Puzzles and geek jokes and ridiculous fake names and so many well-meaning lies, I love it! Thanks for the rec!


Not to be That Guy, but one of the best things about Infinite Jest is a similar love it evinces for the lesser known geography of the greater Boston area.

Date: 2021-01-03 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sandrylene
I'm back-reading things from your end of year post of books, and I have to say - don't bother reading IJ for the Boston lore unless you've got something else that makes it worthwhile. Reading it in book club so I could rant with others was helpful, but I wouldn't intentionally subject a book club to it as *my* recommendation, so I wouldn't advocate for going that route, either, heh.

It was a deeply frustrating book that changed scenes incoherently on a constant basis, nearly everyone was detestable, it goes on forever, it thinks it is SO VERY CLEVER, and when I hit the end I would've thrown the book had it been a physical book and not my phone.

Date: 2020-07-27 11:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brainwane
I thought of you as I was reading it and I'm glad you liked it too!

Date: 2020-07-14 08:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lokifan
an incredibly relatable grown-up friendship that began as Casual Work Hangs and through the course of both time and conscious effort and various inequal levels of investment on one side or the other has grown into something that's actually deeply significant.

That sounds amazing!

it's incredibly nerdy, deeply aware and possibly a little too proud of its own geek cred, a little too ready to be charmed by the glamor of its wealthiest and most privileged characters and to give itself credit for queer joyous progressive spirit without really grappling at all with the city's underlying systemic inequalities ... like, I think it's also worth noting the absence of Dorchester or Roxbury in the paragraph I quoted above. And Archie is a poor little rich boy with a tragic backstory, and Dex is a finance guy who feels kind of bad about negative world impact of his job, and Vincent Pryce is a good, fun, wacky billionaire. You know.

Haha, I don't know Boston at all, but this is sharply observed and feels familiar, not least from fandom.

Date: 2020-07-22 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bloodygranuaile
As a Boston Goth I think I might need to read this now?

Date: 2020-08-03 11:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bloodygranuaile
We're gonna have to have all the Goths in Boston read it and have a Boston Goth book club about it, apparently

THANK YOU

Date: 2020-07-27 11:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brainwane
I had not heard of this book at ALL, your review made it sound great, and then I read it and had a great time. Funny, incisive, moving, clever, really insightful about human lives, sweet, celebratory of ridiculous joys.

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