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[personal profile] skygiants
It took me a little while to get into Court of Fives, Kate Elliott's new YA series-starter, but about midway through it got very more-ish!

Our Heroine Jessamy is a tomboy super-athlete whose lifelong dream is to compete in American Ninja Warrior. (Well, Saroese-Efean Ninja Warrior.) Alas, though she is competent and skilled and could probably make a pretty good go of it, it would embarrass her family, since women of the Saroese culture that colonized the local Efeans a few generations back are not supposed to make with the sportsing. Saroese and Efeans are also known, with EXTREME SUBTLETY, as 'Patrons' and 'Commoners.'

Jessamy isn't exactly Patron -- her father, a high-ranking general, lives in a state of quasi-marriage with her Efean mother, and is attempting to raise his four mixed-race daughters to the point where possibly at least one of them might be able to marry into the upper class. Jes' sisters include Maraya the sensible intellectual one, Bettany the angry one, and Amaya the bratty flirty one ... and despite these INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS CLUES, only just now when reading a blog post did I realize that it is 100% and explicitly a Little Women AU, except that the Beth equivalent so far is the anti-Beth in just about every possible way. Curious to see how that one plays out, I gotta say!

...OK so I guess at this point I start over with a better description? Court of Fives is a Little Women AU in which the Jo-analogue yearns to compete in American Ninja Warrior but is prevented due to family duty and society, but then gets distracted by dramatic life-changing events, and then does some actual competing in American Ninja Warrior, and then gets distracted again by having to rescue her family from SURPRISINGLY DARK FATES. Unsurprisingly, this is the point when it gets interesting and complicated and more-ish. Along the way, she learns that politics and race relations are complex, colonialism is probably bad, history can be rewritten, lesbians exist, and sometimes it is required to be stone cold ruthless to get what you want.

The prose, especially in the beginning, feels a little clunkier than in the other Kate Elliott books I've read, which ... is pretty much just the Spiritwalker trilogy, so I don't really have a huge point of comparison actually, but there's some noticeable "AS YOU KNOW, [insert cultural explanation here]" to set the stage, and it has the slightly bland first-person present-tense thing going on that seems to be de rigueur for YA these days and of which I admit I am a little tired. It gets less clunky once some of the initial plot-bombs start going off, though. I like Jes and her sisters, and there are enough super interesting plot-bombs chucked around in the last half-to-third of the book that I'm definitely committed to reading the rest. (Because it is a YA trilogy, I fear I can see the dreaded shape of a love triangle looming on the horizon, but it's not there yet and I do have confidence that the primary emotional driving force will continue to be SIBLINGS AND FAMILY!! rather than BOYS!!)

Date: 2015-12-12 03:01 am (UTC)
affreca: (Books)
From: [personal profile] affreca
I'm glad to see some one else had a problem with the clunkiness of the beginning. Maybe I'll take another try.

Date: 2015-12-12 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] melitakennedy
Me too, to the point that I bogged down when her father was "picked up" by that patron and haven't finished it. I plan to try again.

OTOH, I tore through Black Wolves and highly recommend the Crossroads trilogy (to which it's a loose sequel), the Jaran series, and her Alis Rasmussen books. I couldn't get into the Crown of Stars series although I get farther each time I try!

Date: 2015-12-12 06:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] affreca
Oh, I adore Kate Elliott. I think part of my disappointment was that she's usually so good about inclueing cultural details without "as you know Bob"s.

I'm happy that my raves for Black Wolves interested a friend enough to start Crossroads (and like it).

Date: 2015-12-12 03:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
Well, remixed Little Women sisters? The eldest is not Meg, indeed closer to Beth read straight, because of her clubfoot and her determination to be Useful to Her Community without "benefit" of marriage.

I agree with both the initial clunking-somewhat and the explosion partway through of things I enjoy reading very much.

Date: 2015-12-12 05:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
Good point. I missed the prettiness factor entirely, and since I never liked canonical Meg's partner, I failed to line him up with the sturdy guy here. Your comparison makes sense--thanks for explicating.

Date: 2015-12-12 04:25 am (UTC)
musesfool: achilles, with text over his cheek saying "godlike achilles" (ever to be the best)
From: [personal profile] musesfool
Oh wow, I was so fixated on the faux Roman-ness of it that I didn't even notice the Little Women remix!

I enjoyed it but I found some of it stretched my suspension of disbelief a little far and also, yeah, a fairly generic YA first person voice. I'll still read the next one though.

Date: 2015-12-12 11:34 am (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Just zipped through the Amazon sample and wondering if there aren't elements of Sparta as well as Rome. The triumphs and games seem Roman, but the rigidity of the social order not so much. Rome had ways to become a citizen and/or move up the social classes (vide Falco), the Patron/Commoner divide seems more akin to Spartan/Helot.

Unfortunately the Little Women analogues are going right over my head. I think I have actually read Little Women (in the distant mists of childhood), but nothing seems to have stuck :(

Date: 2015-12-13 05:13 pm (UTC)
cofax7: climbing on an abbey wall  (Default)
From: [personal profile] cofax7
Yeah, she's said it's very much Hellenistic Egypt.

Date: 2015-12-12 12:44 pm (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
Huh. I'd been meaning to give Kate Elliot a try, and Little Women AU in quasi-Rome does sound appealing.
Edited Date: 2015-12-12 12:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-12-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
starlady: Galadriel in Caras Galadhon, with an ornate letter "G" (galadriel is a G)
From: [personal profile] starlady
I love me some Hellenistic Egypt, and all the worldbuilding and history in the second half has me really interested to see where the next two books will go. Which reminds me, I should go buy the prequel novella!

Date: 2015-12-13 03:19 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I actually found the exposition in the Spiritwalker books kind of terrible, so I'm sad to hear this is apparently a reliable feature, because I want to like her books.

Date: 2015-12-13 04:23 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu

I just remember a lot of as-you-know'ing, to a degree that surprised me given how experienced a writer she is.

Date: 2015-12-13 05:14 pm (UTC)
cofax7: climbing on an abbey wall  (Default)
From: [personal profile] cofax7
There's much less exposition in the Crossroads books (which I happen to be rereading): I wonder if her editors asked for it, since both Spiritwalker and Court of Fives are rather more YA-ish than her other work.

Date: 2015-12-14 01:13 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu

Thanks, that's good to know.

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