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I had a lot of relatively mindless manual labor to do last week at work, so I ended up zipping through all extant episodes of The Strange Case of The Starship Iris and enjoyed it very much!

I have a pal who works on this podcast so it had been on my radar for a while, but all I really knew about it was "scripted fiction, ensemble I think, probably takes place on a spaceship called Iris?" As it happens, I was not even correct about this much! In the first episode, scientist Violet Liu is rescued from off the Starship Iris, which has just malfunctioned in the middle of a government sample-collecting mission in such a way as to cause the death of the rest of the crew, and the rest of the show takes place on the entirely different ship on which she unexpectedly finds herself.

The first thing that jumps into my mind as a comparative for Starship Iris is Becky Chambers' books ... which feels a bit oxymoronic in a way, because one of Chambers' main things is a gentle absence of plot and relatively low immediate stakes, while Starship Iris is not only very tightly plotted but starts off immediately with life-and-death stakes and only builds from there. But despite the high stakes it still feels to me like a very gentle show in a lot of ways -- there's a heavy emphasis on empathy and trust and communication, and the characters are all generally well-intentioned people attempting to do their best by each other and their own ethics in the various dangerous circumstances in which they find themselves. It's also very Emphatically representative; cast largely of color and/or queer, foregrounded queer relationships (an established human/alien relationship acts as a fairly explicit stand-in for the social marginalization of a queer relationship, while the challenges of the main lesbian romance are not structural and societal but internal and personal to the lesbians in question), carefully inclusive about portrayals of visible and invisible disability and structural inequality, etc. (My personal favorite character is the laid-back trans linguist who quit grad school to join a crew of smugglers because it felt like less of an ethical quagmire, but still craves feedback on his Ph.D. thesis on historical alien literary epics.)

The story is set a few years after a major interstellar war between humanity -- which resulted in the imposition of a heavily propagandized military regime -- and a much more powerful, moderately expansionist alien empire. One of my favorite things about the podcast is the format of the first season, which is structured as a series of government reports on the activities of Violet Liu and comrades, increasingly punctuated and annotated by the agents assigned to the case; as the season goes on, the cast become increasingly aware of their own audio surveillance, and the question of how the authorities are accessing the recordings becomes central to the plot, with absolutely no break in kayfabe until the closing credits of S1. I dug this SO MUCH and thought it was really cleverly done! I'm a little sad this conceit is not sustainable into the second season, which has a more traditional radio drama format, but they have made it up to me with the addition of frequent interjections from an in-universe pirate radio station and so I can forgive.

Anyway, now I have listened to all that there is so far, and am, shockingly, caught up on just about everything else I'm actively listening to, I'm potentially in the market for more podcasts?? So if you have recommendations, please let me know!

For the record, my other current podcast listening:

- Friends at the Table, aka 'the only thing I listened to for approximately four years while catching up on all their content,' but now [personal profile] genarti are trying to listen to the current season together and use it as crafting motivation, which is part of the reason I have more time in my walking-to-and-from-work listening schedule these days
- A More Civilized Age, in which some of the FaTT people and some other people talk about Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and I use it as an excuse to rewatch the episodes along with them and argue with them in my head
- Throwing Sheyd, the Jewish demonology podcast (currently on hiatus it seems?); I'm enjoying listening through their backlog very much but also can't listen to too many episodes in a row or it all starts blurring together

Date: 2021-04-15 08:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadaras
Someday I'll circle back to Starship Iris! I have listened to the first couple episodes and liked it but listening to scripted shows takes too much mental effort.

I have no suggestions for podcasts because you're listening to all the ones that I'm actually keeping up with myself. xD this is not surprising.

(The only other thing I'm listening to right now is the Great Gundam Project, which I enjoy because I like listening to people tell me about a show I'll never watch but which is deeply influential on a genre I like. It's nice to listen to something where if I zone out for a while I'm not going to care about having Missed Things because I don't have that much context anyway [I skipped an entire episode once by accident at one point and didn't realise it xD;]. It's fun, and I enjoy it, and someday maybe I'll catch up with it instead of slowly listening through backlog whenever I am doing podcast-applicable chores.)

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Date: 2021-04-15 09:06 pm (UTC)
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I'm also out of podcasts on the immediate docket, so it is absolutely Starship Iris time, for the many obvious reasons :D

And I really do not recall whether horror is emphatically not your thing, and also perhaps People Who Are Terrible At Archiving is very not your thing, but I know I've pitched the Magnus Archives to you at least a bit and I would be absolutely thrilled if you would join me in this pit!

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From: [personal profile] jazzfish
+1 Magnus Archives. Though Jon is in fact a TERRIBLE archivist, and As Our Story Begins he's taking over from an even worse archivist...

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Date: 2021-04-17 12:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nevanna
I love The Magnus Archives. Caveats: the portrayals of some antagonists are pretty appallingly racist (the creators are aware of at least one of these choices and have apologized, but the relevant episodes are still a rough listen); the fifth and final season takes a sharp turn in terms of world logic; and I found the ending deeply unsatisfying beyond the ways in which we are obviously supposed to find it ambiguous. However, the plotting a lot of the world-building are an enjoyably intricate puzzle, the characters are complex and sympathetic even when they're not likable, and there are several in-universe nods to "no, really, that is not how you archive." Also, there is a ton of excellent fanfic out there. I would be very interested to see what you think of the show if you ever decide to give it a listen.
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Date: 2021-04-15 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seekingferret
Throwing Sheyd is so much fun!

Date: 2021-04-16 12:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seekingferret
Oh, other podcasts I've been listening to lately you might like:

The Ginsburg Tapes http://ginsburgtapes.com/ A lawyer dug up the recordings of RBG's six oral arguments at the Supreme Court and listens to them and analyzes them both for historical interest but also analyzes the legal strategy and advocacy style of Ginsburg in exacting detail. Eight really satisfying, extremely technical episodes.

Responsa Radio https://www.hadar.org/torah-collection/responsa-radio Rabbi Ethan Tucker and Rabbi Avi Kilip answer modern halachic questions from a liberal Orthodox perspective

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Date: 2021-04-15 11:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] imbir
Twenty Thousand Hertz: explores iconic and interesting sounds
Every Little Thing: researches and answers various interesting questions sent in by listeners
Decoder Ring: digs into random US cultural phenomena
Last Seen: investigates the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum heist

And I’m seconding the rec for Mabel. I wandered off when it got lost in the weeds around episode 17, but there’s no modern Gothic podcast like it, so I’ve started again from the beginning and it immediately sucked me back in.
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Date: 2021-04-16 12:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alias_sqbr
Metis in Space: Two nerdy Canadian indigenous women snarkily pull apart depictions of Native people in scifi. I'm not sure why this one show really works for me when all the other "people talk about media" ones I've tried did not, but I really like the mix of thoughtfulness and humour.

I really need to get around to trying Starship Iris, maybe this will be the thing that prods me to try it.

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Date: 2021-04-16 12:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chestnut_pod
Seconding the rec for Metis in Space!

I am a devoted poetry podcast person, and my favorites are Poetry Unbound with Pádraig Ó Tuama (ignore the woo-ness of their website, Ó Tuama and the podcast are definitely sharper) and The Poetry Exchange with Fiona Bennett and a rotating cast of guests.

I also enjoy the academic podcast New Books in Jewish Studies, which does what it says on the tin. It varies wildly from episode to episode, unsurprisingly, but when there's an interesting book it's really interesting.
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Date: 2021-04-16 03:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] copperfyre
I am delighted by this rec for Starship Iris and also the podcasts people are suggesting in the comments!

My found family in space podcast rec would be Wolf 359 which starts off kind of rough, but matures pretty rapidly into tightly plotted, Things Are Getting Ominous adventures on a creaky old space station surrounding a mysterious star, with lots of fun and interesting (and heart wrenching, I definitely cried at a couple of points (over boring work tasks which puzzled my coworkers somewhat...)) character development and interactions. It’s not Emphatically representative in nearly the same way, though (I think it finishes with only one outright canonically queer character, for instance), but I loved it a lot.

Date: 2021-04-16 04:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jadelennox
I really enjoy Starship Iris. It reminds me, weirdly, of Greater Boston, which is a much odder and less coherent story.

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Date: 2021-04-16 07:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
OH DO I HAVE PODCAST RECS.

I believe I have already recced Moby Dick Energy at you, and I second (third, fourth) all the people reccing The Magnus Archives at you. IMHO they stuck the landing and I am full of post-finale fannish joy and wallowing in JUST HOW FUCKING GOOD THAT SHOW WAS, OH MY FUCKING GOD SO GOOD.

the cast become increasingly aware of their own audio surveillance, and the question of how the authorities are accessing the recordings becomes central to the plot, with absolutely no break in kayfabe until the closing credits of S1. I dug this SO MUCH

Without spoilage: the question of "why is all of this being recorded on tape" in TMA goes from something we politely suspend disbelief over as it's obviously a necessary handwave for it to be a podcast, to an in-world phenomenon which is increasingly -- and in the end, devastatingly -- important to the story. IT'S SO CLEVER I LOVE IT SO MUCH.

I also love One From The Vaults, Morgan M. Page's podcast of stories from trans history. My rec here: https://rydra-wong.dreamwidth.org/509031.html

Really enjoyed the first season of Vega: A Sci-Fi Adventure Podcast -- Ivuoma Okoro has one of those absolutely-confident storytelling voices (both as writer and performer) that make you nestle in because you're in safe hands, and you may have no clue where it's going but she does.

In Our Time is very calming: https://rydra-wong.dreamwidth.org/441289.html

I've found Our Plague Year by Joseph Fink (of Night Vale and Alice Isn't Dead) therapeutic at points over the past year -- it's an anthology of personal stories (and voicemail messages) about pandemic life. Not surprisingly, there are points when I'm on for it and points when I need to think about anything but.

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Date: 2021-04-16 09:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vass
Seconding One from the Vaults.

I also enthusiastically recommend Bad Gays. Summary: "A podcast about evil and complicated queers in history. Why do we remember our heroes better than our villains? What can we learn by focusing on the dark side of queer history?"

It's light-hearted, but you can tell that the hosts have very much Done The Reading and can engage with queer and leftist theory in a serious way, even if their main purpose on the podcast is to entertain.

Date: 2021-04-16 03:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lirazel
I listen to a lot of podcasts, but almost none of them are fiction-based. However, this one sounds pretty interesting!

I'll list my favorite podcasts even though I don't know if any of them will be interesting to you or if you're already familiar with them or what.

+ You Must Remember This - Hollywood, lots of interesting miniseries within the overall series (I think you'd enjoy the Polly Platt: The Invisible Woman series), super well done
+ Hi-Phi Nation - philosophy meets narrative journalism
+ Against the Rules because I just like listening to Michael Lewis talk
+ Into the Zone because same but substitute Hari Kunzru
+ Mobituaries because same but substitute Mo Rocca
+ Revisionist History because same but substitute Malcolm Gladwell (wow, these skew really male, don't think? I hadn't even noticed)
+ You're Wrong About/Why Are Dads?/Maintenance Phase, which are not on remotely the same topics but are made by the same people and so have a similar ~vibe~ which is your very smart but down-to-earth friends talk about things (news stories from the past/movies/"wellness culture" respectively) but it's actually interesting
+ The Reckoning - racism and the legacy of slavery, mostly filtered through a Kentucky lens but widely relevant
+ The History Extra Podcast always

Up until a couple of months ago, I would have said Reply All...but...that took a bad turn.
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Date: 2021-04-16 04:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] larryhammer
Hmm -- sounds interesting. Will have to wait till I catch up on my current podcast listening, The History of China (I've just reached the early Tang dynasty, which are episodes from five years ago).

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I will forever recommend Harry Potter and the Sacred Text, if you haven't tried that yet.

Date: 2021-04-17 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] opusculasedfera
I enjoy the One Shot Podcast, where they play short sessions of less well known role-playing games than D&D, but specifically, I think you would like the three episodes where they play "Dream Apart", a fantasy tabletop game set in the shtetl and drawing on Jewish folklore and history.

Eps are here: 1, 2, 3. (Their website navigation is terrible for finding specific eps, I'm afraid, but they have a long back catalogue of other games if you like the players and want to hear more.)

Date: 2021-04-18 09:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] landingtree
I have nothing to add to this list except a seconding of the You're Wrong About/Why Are Dads?/Maintenance Phase rec. But I'm being a happy commensalist and downloading a whole lot of things from it! Very useful for long days in the garden.

Date: 2021-04-18 08:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
Seconding Magnus Archives (though I am only up to 143 on that one) and Maintenance Phase! I also reccomend Sawbones (about various bits of medicine, mostly historical), Death in the Afternoon (about death customs) and Apocalist Bookclub (two friends read apocalyptic fiction in chronological order).

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Date: 2021-04-19 01:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] affreca
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm about six episodes in, and I keep thinking I want to get back to reading my book, then remember it's a podcast. I listen to a lot of podcasts, apparently. Basically they're in three categories, based on how much attention I can give them: podcasts I listen to while working (don't care if I tune out parts, mostly history), podcasts I listen to falling asleep (stuff that it doesn't matter if I fall asleep, mostly pairs talking about stuff I only sort of care about like comics), and podcast I listen to while driving/crafting (stuff I actually have to pay attention like fiction).

Date: 2021-04-19 08:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reconditarmonia
Yesssss, join usssss!

...Er, I ought to catch up on season 2!

As far as other podcasts - I've recently gotten into Wolf 359 (although I needed to skip some of the beginning to avoid losing interest) and also listen to Penumbra Podcast (opposite problem - I liked the first two seasons but feel it's gone downhill).

Date: 2021-04-22 01:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jjhunter
I just listened to the first two episodes of Starship Iris tonight and I am hooked, thank you so much for the rec!

Date: 2021-04-22 04:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scribe
Yaaaaaay I'm glad you are enjoying TSCOSI! Brian is also my favorite, although in S2 Park is emerging as a dark horse challenger for the title. I do not have any particular other recs, but I may scrounge off everyone else's comments on here, so thank you for putting out call! :D

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