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It's been several days since I finished Cristina Rivera Garcia's No One Will See Me Cry (translated by Andrew Hurley) and I've still sort of singularly failed to formulate an opinion about it; I just keep sort of mentally picking the book up and turning it over and putting it uneasily down again.

In some ways this book reminds me of A Month in the Country, in that both are historical novels that delicately build up a picture of lives destabilized by and lived in the cracks after an epoch-shaking event, while carefully avoiding -- tracing the parameters of, writing around, turning the camera consistently away from -- the event itself. The difference is that A Month in the Country does in fact feel light, delicate, balanced against the heavy thing at its center, while No One Will See Me Cry isn't in any way a light book; aside from the heaviness of its subject matter, feels laden with symbolism at every turn, although the symbolism itself is often specific and startling.

The premise: in 1920s Mexico City, an aging, morphine-addicted photographer who's been hired to take portraits of asylum inmates meets Matilda, a woman he last photographed many years ago, when she was a prostitute. Joaquin engages in a kind of narrative barter with, first the asylum doctor, then with Matilda herself, in an attempt to understand her story and how it intersects with his own to bring them both to this asylum. Both of them, it turns out, formatively knew and formatively loved the same woman, a revolutionary, in the years before the war -- but neither of them was actually involved in the Revolution, neither of them were active agents for or against the transformation of their livetimes; Joaquin describes himself more than once as the only photographer of his generation who didn't take any photographs of the war, and Matilda was, at the time, involved in an emotional affair with a desert landscape.

There are some tropes that one expects, and is braced for, around Women and Lost Women and Madwomen, especially when insanity is used as a thematic metaphor around national trajectory, especially when all that is inextrictable from questions of poverty and indigineity. Rivera Garcia is definitely deploying some of those tropes with purpose and to a point and I absolutely do not know enough to have a full sense of what she's doing with them. This is one of those situations where I wish I was reading a book in context of a class or a club. As it is, what I'm left with is interest, unease, some beautiful and surprising images, and a sense that I ought to read a lot more about the Mexican Revolution.

Date: 2026-04-26 06:36 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Both of them, it turns out, formatively knew and formatively loved the same woman, a revolutionary, in the years before the war -- but neither of them was actually involved in the Revolution, neither of them were active agents for or against the transformation of their livetimes; Joaquin describes himself more than once as the only photographer of his generation who didn't take any photographs of the war, and Matilda was, at the time, involved in an emotional affair with a desert landscape.

For what it's worth, that lacuna does make me want to read the book.

Date: 2026-04-29 10:39 am (UTC)
sovay: (Sydney Carton)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I would really love to hear your thoughts on, if you do -- I feel like mine are sort of scrambling for purchase without someone to bounce against.

Getting hold of it looks like the problem unless I can borrow a copy from you! It seems not to be in any of my accessible library systems.

Date: 2026-05-02 12:04 am (UTC)
sovay: (Morell: quizzical)
From: [personal profile] sovay
sldk;jfd this is baffling given that I myself got it out of the BPL! I don't think I trashed it such that they would have to immediately deaccession the copy I returned last week ...

I very much doubt you did! Especially since re-searching just produced a copy I could order through the Malden Public Library! But quite seriously it had not turned up the last time I tried with the exact same string, i.e. the title of the book!

Date: 2026-04-26 08:27 pm (UTC)
chestnut_pod: A close-up photograph of my auburn hair in a French braid (Default)
From: [personal profile] chestnut_pod
Hm! I do know things about the Mexican Revolution, and I am a devoted admirer of A Month in the Country… do you feel that your equivocal feelings about the book as a whole stem more from lacunae in it/your knowledge, or more from some failure or unintended absence in the work?

Date: 2026-04-27 02:39 am (UTC)
chestnut_pod: A close-up photograph of my auburn hair in a French braid (Default)
From: [personal profile] chestnut_pod
I think I will give it a try! Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Date: 2026-04-27 01:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tetralogy
As someone with a big personal connection to Mexico, and Mexico City in particular, I'm adding this to my TBR list for sure.

Date: 2026-04-28 11:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selki
If you don't mind *listening* to learn more about the Mexican Revolution, I recommend Season 9 of Mike Duncan's Revolutions podcast. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn2IQnuuK7zInwsiw6UGnAmdjNPh9AkZL (playlist of Season 9) or https://revolutionspodcast.libsyn.com/
Note, Seasons 1-10 were excellent non-fiction. Season 11 covered the future Martian Revolution.

Date: 2026-05-04 02:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selki
Season 9 does refer some to revolutions covered in previous seasons. I don't think it's too inside baseball, but I did listen in order, so YMMV. My recollection is not too many Mexican revolutionaries were ardent students of revolutionary history, so I don't THINK you'd need to know arcana of previous revolutions.

Date: 2026-04-29 12:57 am (UTC)
asakiyume: (miroku)
From: [personal profile] asakiyume
This is giving me thoughts and feelings I can't quite articulate about the uses of slippery metaphors, and/or tired ones--but also about wondering if maybe it all means something a little different from what you're getting from it: Rivera Garcia is definitely deploying some of those tropes with purpose and to a point and I absolutely do not know enough to have a full sense of what she's doing with them --Nodding vigorously. Definitely have had this reading experience from time to time.

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