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[skygiants]

Okay, I swear after this I will get Phantom of the Opera OUT OF MY MIND and not post about it again for a while. But while I'm on the topic of Phantom fanfiction, I kind of want to compile a list of stories that are just Phantom of the Opera: IN SPACE.

I mean, I don't know if there are any that are actually in space. But here, some other examples:

V for Vendetta: Phantom of the Opera WITH REVOLUTION
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: as I have discussed before, Phantom of the Opera IN A SUBMARINE
Spiderman: Turn Off the Dark: Phantom of the Opera WITH TOO MANY LEGS

I know there are more that I can't think of right now. Brainstorm with me, flist!

(And yes, all right, Phantom of the Opera is just basically Beauty and the Beast: IN THE OPERA, JUST DECONSTRUCTED ENOUGH SO THAT THE STALKER MONSTER DOESN'T GET THE GIRL, BUT NOT DECONSTRUCTED ENOUGH THAT THE FANDOM DOESN'T STILL ROOT FOR HIM. So I guess my criteria for something being Phantom of the Opera IN SPACE or whatever is:

a. there is some kidnapping/Stockholm Syndrome action
b. the monstrous love interest/kidnapper/etc. and the ingenue have some kind of SHARED INTEREST. For example, ocean science! Or being arachnids!
c. the monstrous love interest ends up sad and alone and probably dead

But I am willing to hear arguments for things that lack some of these criteria!)

Comments

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

...stop me before I unload fifteen pages on the false notion of "originality" and the way copyright is killing creativity.

[skygiants]

STOP YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. *laughing* I am all for stories being retold and retold again! But I do find it really fascinating to unpack the way that stories talk to each other and trace the origins of influence. (And that is how you can tell I was an English major!)

My point is, if PHANTOM OF THE OPERA: IN SPACE does really exist, I want to find it and read it!

[gramarye1971]

I suppose one could make something of a case for the second and third Pirates of the Caribbean movies, if you consider the Davy Jones/Tia Dalma plot (complete with Underwater Organ of Emo!). And possibly, through Orientalist lenses, the Sao Feng/Elizabeth Swann plot as well.

[skygiants]

I think the Davy Jones/Tia Dalma plot could totally count! Adding in an Organ of Emo always contributes to the matchup. (Although my forever OTP will be Davy Jones/Ursula the Sea Witch. THEY ARE MADE FOR EACH OTHER.)

[vikytickytembo.livejournal.com]

The Fearless Vampire Killers: Phantom of The Opera with vampires. Bonus points: the broadway flops based on it, Dance of the Vampires, starred Michael Crawford in the Phantom-esque role.

[skygiants]

. . . I am SO SAD I missed this on Broadway.

[libitina]

Star Trek IV! Complete with kidnapping and everything. And having to leave the whales on earth to do their thing while Spock has to leave

[skygiants]

Hahahaha man, it has clearly been too long since I've seen that film!

. . . which, the last time was in fourth grade, when I still thought Spock and Data were the same person, so, not surprising, I guess.

[innerbrat]

To be fair, it's only Turn off the Dark that's Phantom of the Opera with MAGIC SHOES. Spiderman is just... Spiderman.

[skygiants]

We should relish Turn Off the Dark while it still exists! Now that Julie Taymor's off the show, WHO KNOWS what will happen to Arachne.

[ivy-chan.livejournal.com]

Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame?

[skygiants]

Well, Disney's Hunchback certainly ISN'T Hunchback of Notre Dame, so I see no reason it can't be Phantom . . .

[evil-little-dog.livejournal.com]

Back when I was a wee one, I devoured adult SF because...well, let's leave that aside. One of the novels I read, by someone like Robin Cook (but not, as this was at least 20 years ago and possibly 30) was a woman kidnapped and taken to another planet, where she was semi-courted by the king of the planet. He wore a mask for some time....

It was sort of Phantom/Beauty/The King and I, and I still have some odd memories of it floating around in my head. Not the author's name or the title of the novel, mind you.

[skygiants]

I'm trying to think if that's ringing any bells for me, but none spring to mind! It definitely sounds Phantom-ish, though.

[rabidfangurl.livejournal.com]

Does the Anakin/Padme relationship count as Stockholm Syndrome-ish? Because it's not very healthy...

[skygiants]

I think it would proooobably only count if everything had happened after he became Darth Vader. (But I bet you someone has written Phantom Vader of the Death Star fanfic.)

[shati.livejournal.com]

I don't know because of never having actually seen or read any iteration of Phantom of the Opera, but I feel like Piers Anthony must have done SOMETHING along these lines before. At some point.

[skygiants]

No, because at least none of the love interests in Phantom of the Opera are PREPUBESCENT. ;_________;

[skylilies.livejournal.com]

....now i'm just seeing star trek TOS encountering aliens and their strange courting rituals (with some kind of thinly veiled social commentary on accepting people even when they look different from you! ---oh wait, until you realize they are evil! MAYBE. YOUR MESSAGE IS CONFLICTED. but still, racism is bad!) and pretty much having a musical episode THAT IS CRACK-FILLED ENOUGH TO BE LOGICALLY CANON. seriously they should have had a musical episode.

......

it's also five in the morning. YOU'RE 'SPLODING MY BRAIN, GIRL.


and some poor guy in a red shirt would totally get hanged. ):'

[skygiants]

I am, and will always be, FULL OF DISAPPOINT that Star Trek TOS never had a proper musical episode. Seriously guys, Leonard Nimoy is an actual singer! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.

And YOU'RE WELCOME. >:D

Joseph Buquet: one of the original redshirts! That Guy Who Works In The Opera That Nobody Cares About. :(

[genarti]

Oh! You know what, Labyrinth totally is. Phantom of the Opera WITH GOBLINS.

[skygiants]

OH DUDE how did I miss that! Yes, you are totally right. Phantom of the Opera WITH GOBLINS (minus love triangle, and we are all grateful for that.)

. . . and speaking of, how do I not have any Labyrinth icons?

[furikku.livejournal.com]

I can't think of anything off the top of my head but now I am wondering if there is a genderswapped Phantom equivalent. It seems like an interesting idea. :Ia

[skygiants]

I dunno, you would think, but then, the end of Spiderman sort of was that, and it turns out when you have a monstrous lady redeemed/killed by the POWER OF A HANDSOME MAN'S KISS so that he can rescue and marry his cute normative girlfriend, that actually makes it kind of skeevier!

[rymenhild.livejournal.com]

It occurred to me how very, very easy a Princess Tutu AU! Phantom would be. I mean, I'm sure there's an opera house, and some ingenues, and an angst-ridden...

uh.

um.

Cast Drosselmeyer as the Phantom and it's three-quarters done already.

[skygiants]

Rym, I hate to break it to you, but Drosselmeyer is not the one who does the kidnapping of the ingenue to a remote location and wears the creepy mask . . . . *giggling*

You could also make a case for the end of S1 with Rue as the Phantom and Mytho as Christine, it's just that of course it's all deconstructed twenty times over because it's Princess Tutu.