skygiants: Princess Tutu, facing darkness with a green light in the distance (royaume inconnu)
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[personal profile] silveraspen is a kind person who enjoys furthering my education, which you know from the fact that she is responsible for sending me a copy of The Fire Rose to reread and review. Along with this masterpiece, she also sent along a few Barbara Hamblys, one of which I have not yet read and the other of which was Stranger at the Wedding.

Stranger at the Wedding is basically an adorable high-fantasy-of-manners romp that ends up revolving around a super dark and creepy backstory secret trauma, so I'm just going to come out in advance and give a warning for pedophilia and child abuse before I go back to talking about the romp.

That said: probably about 70% of the book is hijinks! The plot basically goes like this:

KYRA: I have had a dark premonition that if my baby sister gets married SHE WILL BE DOOMED! So I will ride home to my estranged parents and STOP THE WEDDING. BABY SISTER I AM COMING!
ALIX: But . . . I mean it's really nice to see you but . . . I'm basically fine? Have some cake?
KYRA: Then why do you look SO DEPRESSED? And who is this jerkface who you clearly don't care about that you have been SOLD IN MARRIAGE TO?
THAT JERKFACE: Hi, I'm a sensible, practical, surprisingly reliable merchant who has awesome swashbuckling sea adventures for a living. Nice to meet you!
KYRA: . . . WHAT A JERKFACE. (<3____<3)

So then Kyra runs around deploying all her wily magical hijinks to delay the wedding until she can figure out WHY HER BABY SISTER IS DOOMED, wearing ever-more ridiculous outfits in the process -- I'm not sure if Kyra's fashion sense is explicitly supposed to be terrible, or just DRAMATIC AND INTERESTING in the Claudia Kishi tradition, but it is by far the funniest part of the book. See this front cover?



That purple-and-yellow Batgirl ballgown: TOTALLY CANON. And that in itself would be enough to make me love Kyra.

Date: 2012-06-25 03:26 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (four elements)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Hambly is one of those authors that I keep meaning to read more of as I loved the January books though they were tough. I think I need to investigate her more hijinks ones since I know I like her writing.

Oh and I read the almost latest Elemental Masters book, Unnatural Issue and I"m so proud of Lackey for improving. The plot was thoughtful, there was build up to everything and no clear and easy happy ending. The villain was still pretty awful but not quite as hamfisted as some of her others, and she did lots of poking at WWI and class stuff, which she does a decent job on.

Date: 2012-06-25 03:36 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (feathered face)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
It's weird, for some reason Lackey just works for me at times. I don't go in expecting a lot but they seem to fit a particular historic fantasy craving of mine.

Ah, good to know, I don't normally go and read grimdark as it tends to be not fun and sort of tiring. That's why I gave up on Song of Ice and Fire, the grimdark was more than character or world building and I ran away.

Date: 2012-06-25 03:42 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (beach scene)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I didn't get into Lackey until a few years ago, so different book itch. I remember when I was younger I had tried one of the Valdemar novels and it didn't do anything for me.

Yeah, that does say a lot and she's a good writer but grimdark is tough going.

Date: 2012-06-25 04:04 pm (UTC)
damselfish: photo by rling (Default)
From: [personal profile] damselfish
Black Swan is half the reason I'm writing lesbian YA swan lake.

BECAUSE IT ENRAGED ME. I'm glad other people read it, though, so I am not alone in my rage.

ETA: ...oh wait, you said you liked it? But... what about rapist Siegfried who never learned his lesson? All he learned was "gosh if I rape people gypsies will haunt me and I hate being haunted!"
Edited Date: 2012-06-25 04:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-25 04:16 pm (UTC)
damselfish: photo by rling (Default)
From: [personal profile] damselfish
WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING ON because yes, I was all over Odette + Odile being awesome together and the story would be greatly improved by just... them. Being them.

And returning Siegfried to the romantic nincompoop that he is in the ballet. "OH MY LOVE, ALL THESE PRETTY GIRLS ARE NOT MY LOVE, WOE IS MY LIFE /dramatic sob" I want that guy, not the guy who rapes gypsies and is generally absolutely unlikeable.

In fact I may have to reread it and also ignore Siegfried. Because that part was so good. I never noticed that it was based on the ballet. I was just intrigued by Odile wanting to marry Siegfried too in the original Tchaikovsky plot.

I... could actually use some people to bounce that off of, if you're willing. Since I took it to wiscon for shopping and now I'm all "weep I will never be any good WEEP"

Date: 2012-06-25 04:32 pm (UTC)
damselfish: photo by rling (Default)
From: [personal profile] damselfish
I am always torn between noticing Siegfried's very tight pants and his melodrama in the ballet. Those tights just... they distract okay-- and in the VHS I have, he's got some insane David Bowie eye make-up going on. I didn't notice the miming of marriage I clearly have to watch again-- how fortunate that it's all on youtube! In multiple forms!

AND YAY. I gotta, y'know, take the bar before I get back into reworking it-- it's currently inside out and eviscerated so it's absolutely not readable in its current form, but I'll remember that. Though I may have to message you just to talk over generalities before I try again, since I may as well before getting into the story's guts.

Also: Are you kidding I own Princess Tutu (though fansubs are better, seeing her called "Duck" even in subs is jarring. I know that's what Ahiru means, but it's weird!)
Edited Date: 2012-06-25 04:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-25 05:58 pm (UTC)
damselfish: photo by rling (Default)
From: [personal profile] damselfish
Awwwww! That last episode does cause a lot of crying.

I saw Princess Tutu a day or two after the finale because it was sold to me as "it's about a duck that turns into a girl that turns into a magical ballerina and the ending has a dancing duck and it made us all cry." I was like, that is so cracked out I have to see it. And oh God. I never thought it was possible for a cartoon duck doing ballet to rip tears straight out of my soul.

And I'll be messaging you! Though I wonder why I don't have your IM/gchat or whatever, because I feel like we should talk for real.

Date: 2012-06-25 06:56 pm (UTC)
damselfish: photo by rling (Default)
From: [personal profile] damselfish
Excellent! I sent you a chat invite thing.

Date: 2012-06-25 04:14 pm (UTC)
jinian: (clow reads)
From: [personal profile] jinian
I also really, really want to read the lesbian YA Swan Lake.

Date: 2012-06-25 04:23 pm (UTC)
damselfish: photo by rling (Default)
From: [personal profile] damselfish
Well... I could really use some people to discuss/beta while I work on it, if you're interested.

I think my friends are sick and tired of it by this point. Especially since I had to teach most of them the plot of Swan Lake to begin with. XD

but eee thank you! It's always nice to hear that it's a concept people are interested in.

Date: 2012-06-25 04:09 pm (UTC)
pedanther: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pedanther
The other book I usually think of as "light and fluffy, for Barbara Hambly" is Bride of the Rat God, which is about a starlet in 1930s Hollywood who unwittingly becomes the target of an ancient Chinese curse, and she and her sister-in-law have to sort that out while also dealing with the usual havoc attendant on the filming of her next picture.

It's another standalone. I having a working theory, based on hard-won experience, that the amount of grimdark in a Barbara Hambly fantasy novel increases as a function of how long the series has been running.

Date: 2012-06-25 04:13 pm (UTC)
jinian: (clow reads)
From: [personal profile] jinian
It does!

Date: 2012-06-25 04:41 pm (UTC)
silveraspen: silver trees against a blue sky background (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveraspen
I love that book! And actually have it on my permanent shelf -- I didn't send it to you, [personal profile] skygiants, because that one I am KEEPING. (I could be willing to loan it, though, if you don't find it anywhere else.)

That's a good working theory. I can't argue it. Although I haven't read all the books in the dog wizard setting - does that one slide into grimdark, too?

Date: 2012-06-26 04:27 am (UTC)
rachelmanija: (Books: old)
From: [personal profile] rachelmanija
Read The Silent Tower/The Silicon Mage! I really love the characters, and it's funny and not very grimdark. It involves Kyra's college of magic, but I don't think she makes an appearance. It has very 80s computer programming and a not-so-great portrayal of gay men, but otherwise, excellent. I diagnosed the hero while I was diagnosing fictional characters.

Date: 2012-06-25 05:16 pm (UTC)
jinian: (clow reads)
From: [personal profile] jinian
Okay, now have you heard the Echo's Children ballad about this book, "Tibbeth of Hale"? (Obv is filk so filk tolerance required; also is spoiler.)

Date: 2012-06-25 11:07 pm (UTC)
batyatoon: (music: dandelion conspiracy)
From: [personal profile] batyatoon
I LOVE THAT SONG. TO PIECES.

It spoilered me for the book, but that's okay because I would never have known about the book otherwise.

Date: 2012-06-25 06:05 pm (UTC)
opusculasedfera: Avatar Korra throws her head back and laughs (korra)
From: [personal profile] opusculasedfera
Oh man, I LOVE Stranger at the Wedding. Like, serious comfort-read-love-it-forever LOVE. There are just so many hijinks! But without sketchy romance novel views on relationships! Sure, Kyra falling in love with Blore is ridiculous, but I am infinitely weak to them having a real conversation at the end about how to make a relationship work in their lives without the narrative shaming the hell out of them for having things in their lives that aren't worth giving up for love. Plus the book actually goes into how different people weight certain sacrifices differently and that's totally fine. It's not a super deep book for sure, but it's so rare to find a book that has this much ludicrous romp happening that never makes me cringe because of its underlying beliefs. Also Kyra is the best foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Date: 2012-06-25 11:08 pm (UTC)
batyatoon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] batyatoon
I'm pretty sure her fashion sense is explicitly supposed to be terrible, but terrible in a way that makes for dramatic and interesting.

Date: 2012-06-26 04:11 pm (UTC)
ladysingsthe: (terrifying things we did for love)
From: [personal profile] ladysingsthe
Becca, I just want to say: It may come as no surprise to you, but Claudia Kishi was one of my earliest fashion icons.

Date: 2012-06-27 05:49 am (UTC)
ladysingsthe: (GAGA AH AH AH)
From: [personal profile] ladysingsthe
AGREEANCE

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