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I picked up The Thursday Murder Club after seeing [personal profile] lizbee's post about it -- it's a very charming mystery novel about a wacky band of quirky pensioners who've made a hobby of puzzleboxing out cold cases and are thoroughly delighted when a real live local murder turns up adjacent to their retirement community.

The Thursday Murder Club includes a sum total of four quirky pensioners, but Joyce and Elizabeth are by far the most protagonist-y and their buddy comedy takes up the most page space of the book: Elizabeth is a Force of Nature whose Dark Past is technically shrouded by the Official Secrets Act but certainly involves A Lot Of Useful Skills and Contacts, while sweet and practical retired nurse Joyce is really just truly delighted to be here* and doing something so interesting!

*'here' being 'lying to the police', 'helping to organize a protest,' 'tracking down a gang member in hiding,' or indeed wherever Elizabeth has decided they are going today

Belligerent former union agitator 'Red' Ron and sophisticated elderly psychologist Ibrahim Arif round out the gang and are also a very cute buddy comedy themselves, though they get much less pagetime than Elizabeth and Joyce. The group -- but especially Elizabeth -- are also to a degree haunted (not literally) by the living ghost of Penny, Elizabeth's best friend and Thursday Murder Club founder, who at the beginning of this book has already entered into the catatonia of late-stage dementia.

In fact the book as a whole is also to a large degree haunted by the specter of aging ungracefully, and the threat of losing one's friends and oneself to time, increasingly imminent for all the protagonists, and impossible to fend off forever. Like, I do want to be clear, the book is like a solid 75% Hijinks and Quirky Pensioners Having A Wonderful Time Fighting (And/Or Committing) Crime, but the retirement community also encompasses a large range of dead spouses, another spouse with early Alzheimer's, and at least two suicides over the course of the book. All of which gives the story plenty of depth to sound, and sort of highlights the highs for the Murder Club by giving us a glimpse of the shadows of the lows, but it is something to be aware of going in.

Aside from the Murder Club, the other protagonists are a pair of new-partner cops that the Murder Club befriends; the Murder Club of course constantly getting one over on them but it's All In Good Fun, because this is the sort of detective book where cops are generally Our Friends Who Sometimes Get In Our Way And Must Be Kept Out Of Things For Their Own Good rather than anything more nuanced or critical. Which is part for the course for the genre and I would not have expected anything different, but I do wish so much of that friendship between the Cool Young Cop and her Tired Older Cop Mentor had not been expressed through the young cop firmly encouraging the older cop to Exercise And Get In Shape -- the mild fatphobia is my biggest actual complaint about the book, but it's a small one in the scheme of things.

Date: 2021-10-17 05:17 am (UTC)
genarti: Older woman sitting cross-legged on high rock, looking out into sky, text "live a life less ordinary." ([misc] live a life extraordinary)
From: [personal profile] genarti
This is so up my alley it's in my backyard, as you know! It's certainly possible that the actual reading experience will fall short, but still, I truly cannot wait to find out.

Date: 2021-10-17 09:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nny
That sounds kind of delightful!

I've found fatphobia is a problem in quite a few outwardly progressive types of media - it's still allowed to be a moral failing, I guess. :/

Date: 2021-10-17 10:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] themis1
This is a book that appeals to almost everyone - all three members of the household have read it, and my boyfriend also loved it. I'm astonished to find a book that appeals to all of us!

Date: 2021-10-17 01:50 pm (UTC)
raven: [hello my name is] and a silhouette image of a raven (Default)
From: [personal profile] raven
Aww I love that book! The sequel is just out, if you haven’t seen it?

Date: 2021-10-17 07:25 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Oh it IS? //jets off

Date: 2021-10-17 08:13 pm (UTC)
rmc28: Rachel in hockey gear on the frozen fen at Upware, near Cambridge (Default)
From: [personal profile] rmc28

I just looked up both books in the Cambridgeshire library system. The Thursday Murder Club has 73 copies and 27 people waiting, The Man Who Died Twice has 15 copies and 87 people waiting.

I think I'm going to make myself person number 28 in the queue for the first one ...

Date: 2021-10-17 08:23 pm (UTC)
raven: [hello my name is] and a silhouette image of a raven (Default)
From: [personal profile] raven
Heee, the Islington library service is much smaller so I'm merely 22nd in the queue!

Date: 2021-10-18 04:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superborb
I am 108 in line with 15 copies so... ^^;

Date: 2021-10-17 04:07 pm (UTC)
qian: Tiny pink head of a Katamari character (Default)
From: [personal profile] qian
This was such a soothing, charming read! Your review reminds me I ought to pick up the sequel ...

Date: 2021-10-17 07:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
I liked that a lot! It was charming without being smug or smarmy, which is hard to do. Also I loved the old people were actual characters, which doesn't happen often in murder mysteries.

Date: 2021-10-17 08:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sara
I enjoyed this one and was particularly glad that the romantic end game was Older Cop and Younger Cop's Mom, since I was afraid it would go in a more traditional direction.

Date: 2021-10-17 08:53 pm (UTC)
lizbee: A sketch of myself (Default)
From: [personal profile] lizbee
the mild fatphobia is my biggest actual complaint about the book, but it's a small one in the scheme of things.

Yes, this bugged me too! Especially the self-loathing of the older cop, even though it was clearly tied up in a lot of other issues. In that sense I thought it was well-handled, but what if there was no fatphobia at all????

Date: 2021-10-18 03:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] boxofdelights
What a world that would be!

Date: 2021-10-18 03:37 am (UTC)
chestnut_pod: A close-up photograph of my auburn hair in a French braid (Default)
From: [personal profile] chestnut_pod
Hm, this sounds very light and fun! I should give it a try.

Date: 2021-10-18 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sally_maria
My mother is currently reading it as well, after being taken by a friend to see Richard Osman at the local Literature Festival. He said he was inspired to write it after visiting his mother in a similar community, and thinking about how we forget that old people are still people, in all their varied types.

Date: 2021-10-22 07:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sally_maria
It's really good to hear that a book by a "celebrity" author is enjoyable on its own merits, as opposed to just selling on the name. (Though I don't know whether anyone outside the UK will have heard of him.)

Date: 2021-10-19 10:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sperrywink
Sounds like an utterly delightful read!

Date: 2021-10-29 07:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sandrylene
Oooh, I'm so psyched you read this! I love this book and its sequel a lot. I find it to be sort of relaxing and uplifting, which y'know, has been really useful lately.

I love how everyone in here has their imperfections and everyone's completely fine with that and people know what people's strengths and weaknesses are and rely on each other. If only growing old were like this, honestly. I dunno, maybe it will be. I can only hope.

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