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As you may remember, Crosstalk was announced, my general impression was that it was basically going to be a Bellwether rewrite except instead of spending the book shouting at clouds about fads, Connie Willis was going to spend the book shouting at clouds about modern technology.

As it happens, I was both very right and very wrong. While both Bellwether and Crosstalk feature a romance between the only two people who are somehow immune to The Shallowness of Modern Existence set against a cast of thousands of sheeple obsessed with the latest gossip/fad, it turns out Bellwether remains a much better book than Crosstalk!

Crosstalk stars Briddey Flanagan, who works at a cell phone company. What does Briddey do at the cell phone company? I have NO IDEA, because we never see her doing any part of her actual job, or in fact doing anything at the office except flee from gossipy coworkers who want to talk about her office romance with [obviously evil] dreamy executive Trent, because everyone in Briddey's office -- and, indeed, perhaps everyone in this book -- walked out of a 1960's Doris Day film.

Briddey has no friends, but she does have several family members, each of whom has two character traits:

Briddey's Aunt Oona is very, very Irish
Briddey's sister Mary Clare is a helicopter parent to her nine-year-old niece, Maeve
Briddey's other sister Kathleen has bad taste in boyfriends

You may have noticed this is only a single character trait per person. The other character trait, which they all share, is that they have no boundaries and all seem very invested in and concerned about Briddey, who literally never has a conversation with any of these people in which she is not attempting to hide from them, flee from them, or get them to stop talking to her, usually by lying to them profusely.

You might think the moral of the story would be that Briddey and her family need to learn to set some boundaries, communicate honestly, and break the cycle of increasingly complex lies! About this, you would be very, very wrong.

The plot kicks off -- after several chapters illustrating how Briddey's cell phone is a terrible trial to her because her family keeps trying to CALL her on it or TEXT her on it, GOD, why will nobody leave her ALONE, clearly the problem is the technology and not, you know, the fact that Briddey doesn't know how to set boundaries and instead is engaged in a constant web of deceit and lies with everyone she knows and theoretically loves! -- when Briddey and her boyfriend [obviously evil] Dreamy Executive Trent decide to get the latest in relationship goals, a procedure that allows them to sense each other's emotions.

RANDOM FICTIONAL OFFICEWORKER: Brad and Angelina just had one of those procedures!
(CONNIE WILLIS: Look at my cool modern references! Just let anybody say that my books are out of date now --
BRAD AND ANGELINA: We're breaking up literally two weeks before this book is published.
CONNIE WILLIS: God fucking damn it!)

Alas, the nonsense science of the procedure somehow goes nonsense science wrong, and instead of sensing her boyfriend's emotions, she gains an instant telepathic connection with C.B., the genius curmudgeon with messy hair and poor hygiene who has a mad scientist workshop in the company basement and thinks communication is awful.

BRIDDEY: Oh man, the procedure's gone wrong and a dude I don't much like can now read my mind, I should tell someone --
C.B.: YOU CANNOT TELL ANYONE ABOUT THIS, EVER. Instead, how about you concoct a series of increasingly-elaborate lies to tell everyone you know and love!
BRIDDEY: Um OK but I would very much like to tell a DOCTOR and figure out a way to reverse this because I feel KIND OF LIKE MY PRIVACY IS BEING INVADED HERE, please leave me alone and don't talk to me --
C.B.: You definitely cannot tell a medical professional about this! Everyone outside of the two of us needs to think that everything is fine!
BRIDDEY: OK, I won't tell anyone, but let me repeat once more: please leave me alone and don't talk to me or listen to my thoughts!
C.B.: I've been listening to your thoughts and I can tell you're in trouble, I'm here to pick you up from the hospital and drive you home! Want to tell me your address? LOL though I mean I already know it, you can have no secrets from me!

Yeah, this is kind of nightmare territory. For the next several chapters, Briddey freaks out while C.B. consistently refuses to stop invading her mental privacy, warns her that she can under no circumstances tell anybody else the truth about anything in her life or the fact that she is in distress, literally feeds her lies to tell to her family and boyfriend, shows up frequently to rescue her despite being explicitly asked not to do so, and, to add insult to injury, constantly mansplains random facts to her about telepathy.

C.B., of course, is the romantic hero and the book goes on to justify everything he does in every respect. The more the book went on, the more I missed Bennett from Bellwether. He had no particular personality that I can recall except being mysteriously immune to fads, but at least he seemed like a pleasant human being and I expect he understood the general meaning of the word 'no.'


It turns out C.B.'s Big Secret is that he has been generally telepathic since he was 13. Listening to everyone's thoughts has taught him that, I quote, "nice guys really do finish last. And nice girls. They get lied to and betrayed and stuck on somebody who's in love with somebody else and get their hearts broken."

Connie Willis! CONNIE WILLIS. THIS IS LITERALLY TEXTBOOK.

Anyway, this means that C.B. OF COURSE is the only person who can teach Briddey how to control her increasingly terrifying and generalized telepathy, and OF COURSE he has to come rescue her from being completely overwhelmed by the voices, and OF COURSE all Briddey has to do is trust him blindly, and OF COURSE after about 12 hours of clinging to him as her only rock in an unstable world full of shouting telepathic voices which she can't tell anyone else about, because he's repeatedly told her she can't tell or trust anyone else, Briddey realizes that ACTUALLY she's been in love with C.B. all along because of the kind, selfless way he keeps coming to her rescue and helping her! Of course. OF COURSE.

BRIDDEY: Oh, by the way, do you know why we are telepathic when nobody else is?
C.B.: In fact I am 100% rock-solid certain, based on a set of random historical anecdotes I've looked up, that telepathy is genetically Irish.
BRIDDEY: You mean ... the more Irish you are, the more telepathic you are?
C.B.: Yes, that is exactly what I mean! Nobody else is telepathic. Only the Irish. There is a special Irish telepathy gene and we literally magical Irish people have it.
BRIDDEY: Um.....
C.B.: The English, for the record, are, I have determined, especially un-telepathic.

I ... need help reacting to this.

In the final two hundred pages, it turns out that Briddey's initial operation was all an evil plot on behalf of Trent and the cell phone company to figure out how to tap telepathy for the next great leap forward in cell phone devices! Because cell phones, if you missed the memo, are the worst.

Briddey and C.B., meanwhile, are absolutely determined that no one EVER should find out that telepathy is real or use any actual science to study it, despite telepathic people actually popping up left and right and going nearly off the deep end with hearing voices that they can't control. People finding out the truth would be the worst thing in the world! Much better to continue lying to everyone for the sake of convenience!

In order to preserve this secret, Briddey takes her one major act of agency in a book full of hiding, freaking out and being rescued by C.B.: she deliberately opens her mind to five million telepathic voices and a panic attack, in order to also burn out the two people who are listening in on her telepathically to prove telepathy is real. But since C.B. also has to come rescue her from the consequences of this, I don't know how many points I'm giving Connie Willis on that one either.

Eventually C.B. handwavily figures out a way to switch off telepathy, and then Briddey's genius niece handwavily figures out a way to switch telepathy back on but only for some people? I guess?? It's very unclear??? The moral being that communication is OK if it's with your true love, I guess, for a very given value of true love. But lying to everyone else is still definitely the best plan.

(Despite the total nonsense of the 'IRISH PEOPLE HAVE A TELEPATHY GENE' premise, I did laugh at the literally last-two-pages reveal that not only is Briddey's aunt telepathic also, but Briddey's aunt's entire Daughters of Ireland social club of elderly Irish ladies are IN FACT a telepathic vigilante squad working to keep the secret of the Irish telepathy gene safe. On the other hand, the fact that Briddey's aunt is in fact telepathic and C.B. knew it all along renders the entire 'you must definitely lie to all your friends and family about your current major trauma' thing even MORE ridiculous and unnecessary, and NEVERMIND, NOW I'M MAD AGAIN.)
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Date: 2016-10-17 03:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] newredshoes
OH NO, the novel that got buried!! I WANT VIGILANTE OLD LADY TELEPATHS NOW TOO.

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I was hoping for an Explosion of Dreadfulness, but my other friend who read it said it was mostly just tedious.

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Date: 2016-10-17 03:39 am (UTC)
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Wow. I mean, I bounce off Connie Willis in general, but it sounds like this is a book anyone with sense would bounce off of so hard that they would risk violating conservation of momentum.

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Date: 2016-10-17 03:46 am (UTC)
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Wow, thank you for reading and reporting back so that I don't need to try and read it. That sounds like a completely infuriating waste of time.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Date: 2016-10-17 05:02 am (UTC)
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I don't like this book.

Date: 2016-10-17 05:15 am (UTC)
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C.B.: Yes, that is exactly what I mean! Nobody else is telepathic. Only the Irish. There is a special Irish telepathy gene and we literally magical Irish people have it.

ANNE MCCAFFREY YOU MAY BE DEAD BUT I BLAME YOU.

I did laugh at the literally last-two-pages reveal that not only is Briddey's aunt telepathic also, but Briddey's aunt's entire Daughters of Ireland social club of elderly Irish ladies are IN FACT a telepathic vigilante squad working to keep the secret of the Irish telepathy gene safe.

I might still have blamed Anne McCaffrey, but I would definitely have been way more interested in reading a novel about the Irish PsiCorps Ladies' Garden Club than the novel you have just described.

[edit] On reflection, I also feel like there's an entire missed novel in the conceit of a person who has telepathy being alienated by the increasing electronic communicativity of the world—I have spent my entire life trying to keep other people out of my head and you people want to invite them all in? But that might not have fitted so well with the LITERALLY MAGICAL IRISH conceit.
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Date: 2016-10-17 12:30 pm (UTC)
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....oh my God, it IS from McCaffrey, isn't it. What was that series? The Talents?

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Date: 2016-10-17 07:10 am (UTC)
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I'm sitting here trying to figure out not only (1) why Connie Willis thought it was a good idea, in today's social climate, to make her male romantic lead a textbook Creepy Stalker/Abuser, but (2) why her editor(s) thought it was a good idea to publish the ensuing book.

On one hand, I'll grant that this sort of stalker/abuser issue wasn't quite as high-profile two years ago -- when the book was most likely conceived/pitched/sold -- as it is now. But you'd think that somewhere along the way someone on the editorial side would have put two and two together and anticipated the potential backlash....

Date: 2016-10-17 07:50 am (UTC)
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I will sit here hugging my copy of To Say Nothing of the Dog and pretend no other books ever happened.

Date: 2016-10-17 12:31 pm (UTC)
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//sits by you clutching copies of Doomsday Book and Fire Watch as well

Date: 2016-10-17 08:43 am (UTC)
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*runs away screaming*

I keep thinking Connie Willis is an author I should try. And then I think maybe definitely not.

Date: 2016-10-17 07:02 pm (UTC)
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Some of the short stories are very charming.

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I had never heard of Connie Willis until just now, and I am deeply alarmed but also laughing. Thank you for saving me from this book.

Date: 2016-10-17 10:50 am (UTC)
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How the everliving fuck does Connie Willis think that an Irish telepathy gene that the English in particular don't have would even WORK? She does know that it's possible to swim between the two islands, doesn't she? (Admittedly, the only person I ever watched attempting this gave up half a mile short because of exhaustion, cold and jellyfish, but it's actually a shorter distance between the relevant points on the Irish and Scottish coasts than between England and France.) She does know that the Irish were in the habit of doing slaving raids on the coasts of England and Wales, which is how the man later to become St Patrick fetched up in Ireland in the first place, doesn't she? She does know that of the 25% of the surviving population who emigrated after the Famine more ended up in England (cheaper fares, less seasickness) than ended up in America or elsewhere, doesn't she? She does realise that about 35% of the population on Manchester, the UK's second city, have Irish ancestry, and that the percentage is even higher in Liverpool?

Thank you for performing the public service of reviewing this appalling piece of tosh. Perhaps Chuck Tingle will do us all the service of writing "Pounded in the Butt By The Irish Telepathy Gene" to take the taste out of our mouths.

Date: 2016-10-17 04:41 pm (UTC)
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Yep. There is a reason why the DNA testing services 23andMe and FamilyTreeDNA lump the British Isles together rather than trying to separate "English" and "Irish".

Now, if she'd posited a gene from the Saxons that suppressed the telepathy gene...it still wouldn't give the result "Irish have telepathy and English don't", but it might at least be *likelier* that a random Irish person would have telepathy and a random English person wouldn't. (And in that scenario, I want there to be a Nordic gene for blocking telepathy, because I love the mental image of Sandi Toksvig on a quiz show looking unperturbed while Dara Ó Briain gets more and more annoyed that he can't read her mind to find the answer.)

And why only Irish? Wouldn't Scots have the gene unless it was a really recent mutation, in which case how would it have spread over the whole Irish population? What about other groups with Celtic ancestry? Are there Welsh telepaths? Breton telepaths in France?

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Date: 2016-10-17 11:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ambyr
I read a piece in ... Locus, maybe, where Willis tried to explain what she was trying to do in this book, which mainly involved her ranting about how the modern era involves too much communication and we all need to communicate less. It did not inspire me to read the book.

Date: 2016-10-17 12:37 pm (UTC)
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I couldn't find that, but there was "Novelist Connie Willis explains why telepathy is a terrible superpower" http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/13/13260094/connie-willis-crosstalk-new-novel-social-media-telepathy

Hoo boy.

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Date: 2016-10-17 11:53 am (UTC)
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Why did we inflict this on ourselves, WHY?

(I still refuse to believe Maeve is 9. REFUSE.)

Date: 2016-10-17 12:27 pm (UTC)
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Thank you for this highly entertaining review! ^_^

This book was on my Amazon wishlist: after reading your review, I deleted it with extreme prejudice!

Date: 2016-10-17 12:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
RANDOM FICTIONAL OFFICEWORKER: Brad and Angelina just had one of those procedures!
(CONNIE WILLIS: Look at my cool modern references! Just let anybody say that my books are out of date now --
BRAD AND ANGELINA: We're breaking up literally two weeks before this book is published.
CONNIE WILLIS: God fucking damn it!)


//really falls out laughing

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Date: 2016-10-17 12:48 pm (UTC)
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Okay so for the longest time the only Connie Willis I'd ever read (and reread because I love it) was To Say Nothing Of The Dog and then I read Bellwether, which I recall as fun and mostly harmless, and then Doomsday Book, which was NOT OF A PATTERN with those two, and I think I might be good with stopping there now!

I mean, aside from all the terrible dudes and dynamics you've described, if you are committed to an... Irish-only telepathy gene, how can you have a vigilante old lady Irish telepath squad and not realize THAT IS YOUR BOOK.

Date: 2016-10-17 05:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
You miiiight like Fire Watch, which is a novelette -- it's online even -- in the time travel universe, and I think it's one of her best works. Kivrin is in it, but it was written before D Book IIRC so some details are different. But....yeah. Her work from about 2000 on has just been awful (and yet still wins awards, wtf).

Date: 2016-10-17 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
C.B.: The English, for the record, are, I have determined, especially un-telepathic.

Dear god, does she have the faintest clue of how intermixed the English and Irish gene pools are? Never mind the common origin, there's been major immigration from Ireland to Great Britain for the last several centuries. My great-great-grandad was called Paddy for the obvious reason!

*Headdesk*, and unlikely to make it onto my books to be read pile!

Date: 2016-10-17 01:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] legionseagle
I mentioned this above. My great-grandad was a Byrne, from Dublin, fwiw.

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Date: 2016-10-17 01:51 pm (UTC)
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I mean, telepathy is an awful superpower? It creeps me right out anyway. But why not Old Lady Telepath Vigilantes instead of...more stuff about how not being able to communicate is better? (I would have liked The Doomsday Book way more if half the plot didn't hinge on people not getting their messages.) This sounds like a mess and I thank you for reading it so I don't have to!

Date: 2016-10-17 02:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Also, if her name is "Briddey" I hope her and C.B.'s first born child ends up with the middle names "Note Spelling."

Date: 2016-10-17 03:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
{Snicker} I did have an "Are You Serious!" moment when I saw that spelling.

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Date: 2016-10-17 05:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
because everyone in Briddey's office -- and, indeed, perhaps everyone in this book -- walked out of a 1960's Doris Day film.

I just realized that if everyone in this book walked out of a Doris Day film, she managed to write a Hudson/Day pastiche wherein nobody is Tony Randall and that is just criminal.

Date: 2016-10-17 05:51 pm (UTC)
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I started telling my housemate about this review, and she keeps going "But...that doesn't make...what about the Welsh?" while I wail "I don't know! It makes no sense! I haven't read the book!"

"Yeah, but would reading the book help?"

"Probably not."

Date: 2016-10-17 06:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Obviously the telepathy gene doesn't like brythonic branches.

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Date: 2016-10-17 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
RANDOM FICTIONAL OFFICEWORKER: Brad and Angelina just had one of those procedures!
(CONNIE WILLIS: Look at my cool modern references! Just let anybody say that my books are out of date now --
BRAD AND ANGELINA: We're breaking up literally two weeks before this book is published.
CONNIE WILLIS: God fucking damn it!)


Clearly that's why they broke up.

Date: 2016-10-17 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] plinythemammaler
BRIDDEY: Oh, by the way, do you know why we are telepathic when nobody else is?
C.B.: In fact I am 100% rock-solid certain, based on a set of random historical anecdotes I've looked up, that telepathy is genetically Irish.
BRIDDEY: You mean ... the more Irish you are, the more telepathic you are?
C.B.: Yes, that is exactly what I mean! Nobody else is telepathic. Only the Irish. There is a special Irish telepathy gene and we literally magical Irish people have it.
BRIDDEY: Um.....
C.B.: The English, for the record, are, I have determined, especially un-telepathic.


BRITISH SHRIEKING ENDLESS HILARITISED AND SHOCKED BRITISH SHRIEKING

Date: 2016-10-17 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brownbetty
Do you think CW came across soulbond fanfiction and couldn't decide if she liked it or hated it?

Date: 2016-10-18 01:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] landofnowhere
I liked this book despite the serious problematic bits for a couple things:

(1) The descriptions of sensory overload, and the mental imagery involved in the telepathy defenses.
(2) Maeve (who is ridiculously OP and not a terribly believable 9-year-old, but still fun)

Regarding (1), though I liked the way that telepathy came across as a form of neurodivergence, this also adds other types of problematicness. Specifically, the protagonists wanting to cure everyone of the telepathy neurodivergence...

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