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[personal profile] rachelmanija has a theory about Books that Commit to their Premise. Peaspout Chen: Future Legend of Skate and Sword absolutely commits to its premise. This is a book about a fourteen-year-old Ice Skating Martial Arts Prodigy who is going to Ice Skating Based Martial Arts School to become an Ice Skating Based Martial Arts Master and BY GOD does she perform a lot of Ice Skating Based Martial Arts! She competes in no less than five increasingly special and increasingly absurd Ice Skating Based Martial Arts Tournaments! We committed!

This book is also committing to a number of other things. It is extremely committing. The things it is committing to include but are not limited to high stakes espionage, heavy-handed geopolitical allegory, some very confusing beats around gender, and a level of unhinged lesbian drama that I absolutely did not expect in a MIDDLE GRADE book! for better and for worse!

The basic plot is that our girl Peasprout, number one skating martial arts prodigy of the large but under-resourced empire of Not China, and her little brother have been sent to Ice Skating Based Martial Arts School on the small but wealthy island of Not Taiwan as part of a goodwill exchange. They are about to be the first skaters from Not China ever to attend the school -- Not Taiwan has a major advantage in Ice Skating Based Martial Arts because they possess the secret of a building material that's Perfect for Ice Skating and never melts, so they can practice all year long -- but nonetheless Peasprout is extremely confident in her abilities and determined to graduate number one!

THINGS ESCALATE DRAMATICALLY FROM THERE.

I think this book is doing several things that are quite good, several things that are quite bad, and several things that I just need help reacting to, all of which I am going to spoil extensively.

The good: we are set up to see Peasprout, as Peasprout sees herself, as a plucky underdog who has not had the resources of her competitors and is upholding the honor of her nation. This is true. Over the course of the book we slowly learn increasing details about the fact that Not China has been making moves of imperialist aggression towards Not Taiwan for two hundred years, that the 'goodwill exchange' is in fact a hostage exchange and Peasprout's counterparts at the Not Chinese court are not being treated well, and that Peasprout lost her parents in a purge indicative of the level of political oppression in Not China, and all this is also true, and I think the way in which we gradually see Peasprout starting to admit this to herself and see her whole situation differently is nuanced and interesting and well-done.

The bad: Peasprout's personality. Oh dear. Let me make it clear: at the beginning of the book I was all in on Peasprout's terrible personality, her absolute self-absorptive self-confidence, the fact that she is constantly thinking about how many awards she has won and how many times she has come best in X and Y, the fact that she doesn't bother to learn people's names unless she thinks they're talented enough to be worth knowing ... all of this is delightful to me. More power to Peasprout and teen heroines with terrible personalities.

However, the third time that Peasprout confidently sauntered off to do something and an obviously well-meaning person was like 'hey this is a major cultural difference, don't do that, it will end badly' and Peasprout ignored them and then it ended badly, I was like 'hey I thought we were going to learn from that last time?' The fourth time I was like 'we are almost halfway through the book and still?' By the fifth time I had given up hope. There is also a major subplot about her little brother extremely and obviously succeeding and making friends while Peasprout makes nothing but enemies, and every time Peasprout is like "!!! you're not succeeding in the way I assume that you have to succeed!" and zooms in to ruin it, and the penny does not drop until like 98% of the way through the book after Peasprout has almost gotten herself executed for treason and espionage.

I am begging you, Peasprout: learn anything. Listen to anyone. The number of ill-advised plans that Peasprout set her mind on and pursued to absolute devastation! The number of times Peasprout fell for an obvious setup and refused to listen to anybody warning her that it was an obvious setup! The number of times that Peasprout was like 'man I misjudged that person, I should go have a conversation with them to find out what they're really like' and then talked completely through it and learned nothing! I am tearing my hair out! God bless Skating Prodigy Peasprout, she certainly can skate and she has no other skills whatsoever.

The unhinged: lesbian drama edition: OKAY. So Peasprout has two main rivals for Top Girl Martial Arts Skater at Martial Arts Skating School; one of them is a bona fide Mean Girl with a Mean Girl Gang, and the other is an awkward and mysterious loner that Peasprout is kind of obsessed with but also finds kind of scary and suspicious.

The awkward and mysterious loner also has a nice, hot twin brother who lurks around outside of school inventing veganism (I was not surprised to learn that the author is also vegan), and he and Peasprout have a blossoming romance and a Near Kiss and he saves both her and her baby brother from peril, but he won't tell her anything about his sister or why she's so weird.

The school keeps getting sabotaged right before major Martial Arts Ice Skating Competition Events, the Mean Girl is constantly accusing Peasprout of being a spy and a saboteur, and Peasprout conversely is convinced the Mean Girl is doing the sabotage and trying to blame it on Peasprout because of their sports rivalry, but!

it turns out!!

THE LONER SISTER AND HER HOT TWIN BROTHER ARE THE SAME PERSON.

she has been pretending to be her brother while he goes off on a secret politics mission, and sabotaging all the places where the boys are supposed to have their Martial Arts Ice Skating Competition Events to avoid being expected to compete in Boys Events and Girls Events at the same time! and she is madly, truly, deeply in love with Peasprout, so she's going to sacrifice herself to make sure Peasprout doesn't take the blame!

but ... alas .... though Peasprout loved the imaginary hot twin brother, she is straight. Or so she says.

"Why are you doing this?" Doi says, her voice breaking. "Why are you trying to stop me?"
"Because I'm your friend!"
"I never wanted you as a friend!"
I don't know what to say to this.
"Do you know," she says, her chest heaving, "what it's like to want something? And then learn that you can never have what you want? Do you have any idea how that feels?"
"Yes, I do! He was good and kind, and he made me feel something I'd never felt before, but I'm never going to see him again, because he never existed!"


THIS IS A MIDDLE GRADE BOOK. It's not that I don't expect lesbians in contemporary middle grade, I just don't expect, you know, this.


the unhinged: other:
okay these are just a few other things about this book that I have to mention because I don't know what to do with them

-- people are constantly referring to the historical event of Not!China's Great Leap. Peasprout Does Not Want To Talk About the Great Leap. It turns out this was a literal leap in which several hundred people were all planning to jump at the same time to redirect an earthquake towards Not Taiwan
-- Not Taiwan is very culturally influence by Not Japan and people are constantly telling an appalled Peasprout that her name is so kawaii
-- a very weird dropped comment about how the baby brother was on wuxia puberty blockers so that he could compete better in ice skating martial arts, but he started them too early and it stunted his growth; this comes up once and never again


Anyway, the book ends with both Peasprout and Doi attempting to sacrifice themselves for each other so neither one of them gets executed for treason, Peasprout actually doing treason against the Empress of Not China, and Peasprout once again affirming that she does not want to date Doi, she just wants Doi to be her Very Good Friend and Best Skating Rival. Okay, sure. At the very last page of the book the real twin brother arrives and he IS hot and one can find out what happens next in Peasprout Chen Two. I'm not sure I can make it through a whole other book of Peasprout Chen's Terrible Decisions, but if anybody knows, I admit I'm incredibly curious.
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Date: 2024-09-21 11:27 pm (UTC)
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Wow. That is very much a book that is Committed. I have nothing much to add but I just felt the need to register the wow. (And also mention, because I'm not sure I've ever actually told you, that your book reviews bring me great joy.)

Date: 2024-09-21 11:32 pm (UTC)
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I am trying to imagine reading this as a fifth grader who has never heard of Taiwan, or maybe has heard about it but has no context. Incredible.

Truly Shakespearean levels of lesbianism.

Date: 2024-09-21 11:33 pm (UTC)
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Okay, yes, many things need explaining here, but I am still stuck on Thing 1: What possible use is Figure Skating Martial Arts south of 60°N or north of Not!Antartica? Why did this develop, and how? If your enemy refuses to get on the ice, do you just… do angry sit-spins at them until they join you on the Battle Pond? Perhaps in a world of such commitment, it's no problem to get everyone onto ice for a big ice battle.

Date: 2024-09-21 11:46 pm (UTC)
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The city of Pearl is made of pearl, a special magical material that you can ice-skate on year-round!!! The secret of how to make it is an incredibly closely guarded secret, though, so it isn't really a thing that exists anywhere else.

Also... uh... qi... cultivation...?? Yeah I admit I also had this question. Like, it's also an art form and they do cool qi magic stuff too and all, but in terms of martial arts practice it does seems fairly limited by external logistics.

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Date: 2024-09-21 11:44 pm (UTC)
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THERE'S SO MUCH HAPPENING IN THIS BOOK AT ALL TIMES

and absolutely none of it involves Peasprout learning from her mistakes, ever, at any point, including all the points at which she announces sheepishly that she is learning from this mistake and will do differently in the future (and then charges straight ahead to snap at anyone giving her good advice, talk over them, and storm away in high confident dudgeon to do the exact thing she was told not to do, because SURELY this person was trying to set her up to fail!!!!)

Also, as a minor side note, the fact that her skate blades are nearly failing (and one has the shock-absorbing tip snapped off) in like chapter 3 and then do not improve, fail for good, or get swapped out for new blades AT ANY POINT was so stressful. I thought if we were making a big deal of it it was going to be a plot point! Not just a thing that I was stressing about in terms of mechanical stresses on magical skating materials to no purpose the whole book!

Anyway yes, it ABSOLUTELY committed and it was ABSOLUTELY GONZO and it did some things really well and some thing very terribly and some things very bewilderingly, and I do not think I will read the next one probably, because even though I'm very curious about some aspects I can't say I really enjoyed myself, on balance, even though I did quite like some parts.

Date: 2024-09-22 12:21 am (UTC)
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and absolutely none of it involves Peasprout learning from her mistakes, ever, at any point, including all the points at which she announces sheepishly that she is learning from this mistake and will do differently in the future (and then charges straight ahead to snap at anyone giving her good advice, talk over them, and storm away in high confident dudgeon to do the exact thing she was told not to do, because SURELY this person was trying to set her up to fail!!!!)

I really wish to admire your choice of icon to accompany this comment.

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"Yes, I do! He was good and kind, and he made me feel something I'd never felt before, but I'm never going to see him again, because he never existed!"

THANK YOU "ANDREW IN DRAG" WILL NOT BE LEAVING MY HEAD FOR THE NEXT TWENTY-FOUR HOURS AT MINIMUM

-- a very weird dropped comment about how the baby brother was on wuxia puberty blockers so that he could compete better in ice skating martial arts, but he started them too early and it stunted his growth; this comes up once and never again

whut.
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I'm not sure I can help you react to these but want you to know that I am also now reacting to them!

Date: 2024-09-22 12:17 am (UTC)
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I think this book is doing several things that are quite good, several things that are quite bad, and several things that I just need help reacting to

a book that commits indeed!

hot twin brother who lurks around outside of school inventing veganism (I was not surprised to learn that the author is also vegan)

I died laughing

-- a very weird dropped comment about how the baby brother was on wuxia puberty blockers so that he could compete better in ice skating martial arts, but he started them too early and it stunted his growth; this comes up once and never again

OH BOY

anyway. WHAT an experience. thank you for sharing so that I can know about this Ice Skating Martial Arts book (and never read it)

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Date: 2024-09-22 12:24 am (UTC)
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people are constantly referring to the historical event of Not!China's Great Leap. Peasprout Does Not Want To Talk About the Great Leap. It turns out this was a literal leap in which several hundred people were all planning to jump at the same time to redirect an earthquake towards Not Taiwan

Congratulations, you made me literally laugh out loud.

I'm not sure I can make it through a whole other book of Peasprout Chen's Terrible Decisions

Oh, c'mon, there's no way the rest of us can do it justice!

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the great leap oh my god I want to know more about how that could have worked, what the fuck

There are a number of other ??? moments in this, of course, but your Unhinged (assorted) noes are especially ??? (in a very good/hilarious way so long as I get to read your summary and don't need to be personally baffled by reading this myself!)

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I have heard Henry Lien talk about this series on a panel (and also sing a song? possibly several songs? about this series), so the degree of commitment does not surprise me, and Peasprout's personality also does not surprise me that much, but I did not know about the unhinged lesbian drama!

After I heard the author discuss this series, I was curious to know more, but not enough to pick up a middle grade book about two things I have zero interest in, so I'm glad to experience it vicariously through you instead (and thus hope you do read the sequel!)

Date: 2024-09-22 03:44 am (UTC)
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Singing several songs about this series??? I must know more, oh my god.

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Date: 2024-09-22 01:49 am (UTC)
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.....I'm speechless.

Incredible.

Date: 2024-09-22 03:09 am (UTC)
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*slow blinks* that sure is...a lot!

They are about to be the first skaters from Not China ever to attend the school -- Not Taiwan has a major advantage in Ice Skating Based Martial Arts because they possess the secret of a building material that's Perfect for Ice Skating and never melts, so they can practice all year long
so...metaphor for the semiconductor industry, got it.

people are constantly referring to the historical event of Not!China's Great Leap. Peasprout Does Not Want To Talk About the Great Leap. It turns out this was a literal leap in which several hundred people were all planning to jump at the same time to redirect an earthquake towards Not Taiwan
WHUT

this whole book sounds wild, but alas the way you describe Peasprout's personality sounds exactly I would find it very frustrating to read about her making bad decision after bad decision, and not in a fun way.

Date: 2024-09-22 04:29 am (UTC)
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Wow, this sounds fascinating.

Date: 2024-09-22 05:37 am (UTC)
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Ahah yes. I also wanted to like this book! But Peasprout totally got in her own way (and everybody’s elses) too many times. I think there was a bit where she falls in the water and thinks “fortunately I am my province’s all time swimming champion” or something similar and then the bit where she does that thing to her brother’s work and nope, I was out. I will however watch with interest to see what happens in book two as long as I don’t have to read it…

Date: 2024-09-22 05:54 am (UTC)
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OMG, this sounds like a book I must run out and buy Right Now for Parenting Reasons. Because what you're reading as "bad" sounds to me like "targeted towards middle grade readers". As in - those are teens and pre-teens, arguably the most over-confident demographic. They really do need to be told to listen to people and not assume they're always right and not misjudge and not consider themselves experts on everything, and they need to be told this repeatedly with lots of examples. And if it takes hot and heavy Lesbian Drama for them to read through those examples - let there be Lesbian Drama.

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I'm not sure I want to read this but I sure love that it exists.

Date: 2024-09-22 01:05 pm (UTC)
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This is neither here nor there, but Randall Munroe has specifically refuted the idea that a lot of people jumping could cause an earthquake, though it could cause a lot of other problems.

Date: 2024-09-22 04:46 pm (UTC)
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Those last three notes at the end are each, truly, wtf. Maybe the "kawaii" thing is most WTF? Did Japan also colonize Taiwan in these books? Maybe I don't want to know, maybe the semiconductors/Skating Martial Art kept them independent. But the puberty blockers thing is also very WTF. Is Lien a TERF?? Did he just get captured by a bit of TERF propaganda randomly?

I see Lien has a book coming out that talks about "Eastern storytelling styles" and "how Eastern value systems such as collectivism can dictate form," which makes me twitch.

Date: 2024-09-24 12:30 am (UTC)
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I assumed the puberty blockers were a reference to the accusations of China's female gymnasts being given them to remain competitive.

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It sounds like this book has a truly incredible amount of book in it. Just... wow. Thanks for writing it up!

Date: 2024-09-22 08:44 pm (UTC)
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LITERAL GREAT LEAP to redirect an earthquake toward not!Taiwan. OMG. That is... a choice?? Fascinating.

I fully understand why you do not want to fling yourself on the sequel but consider: the people need to know! DOES Peasprout actually learn something from the ending of this book, or does she immediately revert to her "I will not listen to anyone" ways? DOES Peasprout's little brother ever get to have friends without Peasprout bursting in to insist that he is SUCCEEDING at the WRONG THINGS (friendship) when he should be entirely focused on ICE SKATING MARTIAL ARTS? WILL she realize that she's actually in love with Doi, because even if Doi's brother is very hot his personality is not the same as Doi Pretending to Be Her Brother?

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BECCA THIS IS RANMA 1/2 FANFICTION I CAN TELL JUST FROM THE SYNOPSIS THIS IS LITERALLY RANMA 1/2 FANFICTION WITH THE SERIAL NUMBERS FILED OFF VERY VERY VERY LIGHTLY I AM FAILING TO COPE ASDKKJDSKAJDAKLSDJKDAAKSD

THERE HAS ONLY EVER BEEN ONE PROPERTY WITH MARTIAL ARTS FIGURE SKATING BEFORE AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THERE STILL IS

I KNEW THE BOY AND THE GIRL WOULD BE THE SAME PERSON BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH FUCKING OBVIOUSLY RANMA

THE REASON PEASPROUT CHEN IS LIKE THAT IS THAT SHE IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE SERIES VILLAINS REWRITTEN AS A PROTAG AND NO MATTER WHAT THE UNIVERSE NO ONE CAN TALK SENSE INTO AZUSA SHIRATORI IT'S NOT METAPHYSICALLY POSSIBLE

I GUESS THE AUTHOR OF THIS IS SAVING THE PAIRS MARTIAL ARTS FIGURE SKATING FOR THE NEXT BOOK

I FEEL LIKE I'M ON DRUGS SOMEONE PUT GEOPOLITICS IN THE RANMA WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK

AZUSA'S BROTHER IS EVEN STILL THE SENSIBLE(ISH) ONE MY HEAD HURTS DOES ANYONE IN THIS BOOK TURN INTO AN ANIMAL

BECCA I WAS JUST SITTING HERE HAVING AN EVENING AND THEN YOU DID THIS TO ME I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO THANK YOU OR JUST KEEP SCREAMING

ASDSKAHLDKJAKS SJLJOJEJDS

!!!!!
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I have to back this up, when I was a wee small and manga was only starting to reach American shores, the only manga volume I had access to was a copy of Volume 2 of the Viz translation of Ranma 1/2 that had somehow turned up at the local flea market, this is 100% Ranma 1/2 fanfic and she is 100% Asuza Shiratori with the serial numbers filed off, I must read this ASAP

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The reason there is martial arts figure skating, by the way, is that in the wonderful world of Ranma 1/2, everything is martial arts. There's martial arts okonomiyaki making. Martial arts flower arranging. Martial arts yoyo championship. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

But when she arrived at martial arts pairs figure skating, Rumiko Takahashi hit upon a gold mine for both manga art and animation the likes of which have barely been seen. It is one of the great arcs of that anime and honestly of comedy anime in general. It is so perfectly ludicrous.

Despite the fact that I can already see the trans wank looming on the horizon, I was delighted with the announcement of the upcoming Ranma 1/2 anime remake because they are going to have the budget and the technology to go off on the martial arts pairs figure skating, and it would not surprise me if this was a major consideration in getting that remake greenlighted.

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The trans wank of... oh, Ranma 1/2. For a long moment there I thought you meant about this book. Because, I gotta say, branding his books as like Harry Potter, in the 2020s, is not a neutral choice, and to judge from his website it does not seem to have been only his publishers' decision.

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I would be coping with all this much better if Ranma 1/2 were not LITERALLY THE TITLE WHICH INVENTED THE HAREM GENRE.

Date: 2024-09-23 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mme_n_b
Can you please, please, read Ranma 1/2, whatever it is, and write a book review? Please? Your reviews are so. much. fun.

Date: 2024-09-23 07:19 am (UTC)
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now I'd also love Becca to read r1/2, but it's a 36 volume harem manga that ran from 1987-96 so it is a very specific flavor. admittedly not unlike peasprout chen. the protag is just both the twins. at the same time. yes

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I am AMAZED this much Everything fit into a middle grade book, absolutely taken out by ALL OF THIS.

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